Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Electric chair time
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I think they are doing that at the RNC tonite for a grand finale

[spence]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I think they are doing that at the RNC tonite for a grand finale

No, Ted Nugent is going to skewer a Hillary doll with his crossbow. It's going to be great.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

No, Ted Nugent is going to skewer a Hillary doll with his crossbow. It's going to be great.

is tom cotton not a serious person? honors graduate of harvard and harvard law, then enlisted in the army and asked for the infantry. does that not indicate a man who has brains and courage and a sense of duty and integrity?
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[JohnR]

If any of you thinks this all ends peacefully, we are fast approaching the reconciliation point of no return.

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If you are falling for the BE VERY AFRAID of Antifa and it's the Dems message of the RNC you're being played.

You are justifying and providing cover for useful idiots.

Maybe they'll burn down (or confiscate) your home last

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

If any of you thinks this all ends peacefully, we are fast approaching the reconciliation point of no return.

My biggest concern is Trump getting hammered in the election and making a call to arms.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by JohnR

If any of you thinks this all ends peacefully, we are fast approaching the reconciliation point of no return.




You are justifying and providing cover for useful idiots.

Maybe they'll burn down (or confiscate) your home last

You’re not paying attention
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Only in America can people support killing a person based on a feeling I thought he had a gun or thought he was going for a knife .. so I shot him 7 times in the back.... you shoot 7 time for 3 reason fear or anger or your in a shoot out what facts would make this ok?

Even in Iraq aka combat zone me or my men did not have the latitude to shoot an Iraqi because he might be armed or I thought he was reaching for something

Sad that in the united states Police rules of engagement are weaker than one in a war zone against their own citizens

I am fully aware of the responsibilities of wearing a weapon and taser in public plainclothes walking convicted felons from the car, down public streets and thru hospital lobby's eyeballing everyone on the off chance that today's the day . Is his victim here an angry family member a rival gang? Going to act..

So I see my criticisms of the shooting not form the view of some guy on the couch who has no clue . But from a position of experience and a supervisor... nor iam I suggesting he was a bad person or bad officer. But some mistakes cant be ingnored or undone with arguments like the guy had a record or he beat his wife . Or had a rape charge, or the color of their skin. thats just not fair treatment under the law .

By skin it is not fair treatment of the law - we have not reached fairness yet, and fully. Black people are proportionally targeted higher than others - it is not right and it is not fair. If the guy had a record or he beat his wife or had a rape charge, DV history, Assault with weapons charges can and SHOULD be a metric. Blowing up and defunding the entire system is not the answer.

But we don't know if the guy was reaching for something, clearly you are with the not other factors mattering or determined by investigation.

We are not having the conversation on what will really make strides to fix the system, we have people wanting to tear everything down because that will somehow be better - what a stupid effing thing to believe.

We are not trying to get where facts dictate what happened we are where narrative writes what to believe. We can't wait until the facts say George Floyd was wrongly murdered (likely, but the legal system needs to decide) and too many people ignore that Mike Brown was found the aggressor

We no longer take facts in the matter because "Hands Up Don't Shoot", meant to never happened with Michael Brown yet almost everyone thinks he said that and people shout it at every protest. And people then went out and executed cops in many places because reacting before understanding the facts.

Other black people have died because wrong decisions by cops and sheer stupidity, and it is wrong, happnes to white preople too. What is it by demographics? Is it outsized then too?

The vast majority of everyone thinks that

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

MSNBC just ran a couple telling video comparisons on how some white mass murderers are calmly and peacefully arrested and in the case of Charlestown Church killer, even taken to Burger King right after because he was hungry. The other one show cased a naked crazed killer of three, actually attacking a grounds keeper and yet the multiple police let him run around clearly a threat and all he gets is some pepper spray. The average white American has no clue the profiling and real potential danger young black men live with and the way it might impact their behavior in a stressful encounter with a white police officer which might give him the impression his life might be in danger. Easy for us white men and women living in our comfortable homes in the suburbs to say that black man should have just calmly given up, when we don’t understand the decades of abuse that might shade their instinctive reaction.

Did your white mom and dad after giving you the birds and the bees talk, sit you down and warn you about how your life may be taken from you in a second because of your skin color, live a year in their shoes and your opinion of these incidents might change.

Again the rioting and property damage is wrong and plays right into Trumps play book, but there is a reason for concern. I’m not saying defund police, but they are protected from any criminal charges by contract in far to many municipalities. Trump won’t change anything because he to believes he is above the law as the nations top police officer.

Of course MSNBC did. There is also a common thread since yesterday that the cops in Kenosha were giving the shooter water because

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You’re not paying attention
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I am not buying your insanity, there is a difference.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

By skin it is not fair treatment of the law - we have not reached fairness yet, and fully. Black people are proportionally targeted higher than others - it is not right and it is not fair. If the guy had a record or he beat his wife or had a rape charge, DV history, Assault with weapons charges can and SHOULD be a metric. Blowing up and defunding the entire system is not the answer.

But we don't know if the guy was reaching for something, clearly you are with the not other factors mattering or determined by investigation.

We are not having the conversation on what will really make strides to fix the system, we have people wanting to tear everything down because that will somehow be better - what a stupid effing thing to believe.

We are not trying to get where facts dictate what happened we are where narrative writes what to believe. We can't wait until the facts say George Floyd was wrongly murdered (likely, but the legal system needs to decide) and too many people ignore that Mike Brown was found the aggressor

We no longer take facts in the matter because "Hands Up Don't Shoot", meant to never happened with Michael Brown yet almost everyone thinks he said that and people shout it at every protest. And people then went out and executed cops in many places because reacting before understanding the facts.

Other black people have died because wrong decisions by cops and sheer stupidity, and it is wrong, happnes to white preople too. What is it by demographics? Is it outsized then too?

The vast majority of everyone thinks that



Of course MSNBC did. There is also a common thread since yesterday that the cops in Kenosha were giving the shooter water because



I am not buying your insanity, there is a difference.

"Other black people have died because wrong decisions by cops and sheer stupidity, and it is wrong, happnes to white preople too. What is it by demographics? Is it outsized then too?"

According to the National Academy of Sciences...if you look at the number of actual unarmed people killed by police by race...

if you compare that to national %s of race, it happens to blacks disproportionately.

If you compare it to the % of race that live in big cities (where most of these encounters happen), it's not disproportionate.

The entire democratic party, including all the liberals here and in the media, are acting no differently than Al Sharpton did at his worst. As soon as we hear there is an encounter, we scream racist assassination, before we know any facts. Facts don't matter. Winning in November matters. That's all that matters.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by JohnR

By skin it is not fair treatment of the law - we have not reached fairness yet, and fully. Black people are proportionally targeted higher than others - it is not right and it is not fair. If the guy had a record or he beat his wife or had a rape charge, DV history, Assault with weapons charges can and SHOULD be a metric. Blowing up and defunding the entire system is not the answer.

But we don't know if the guy was reaching for something, clearly you are with the not other factors mattering or determined by investigation.

We are not having the conversation on what will really make strides to fix the system, we have people wanting to tear everything down because that will somehow be better - what a stupid effing thing to believe.

We are not trying to get where facts dictate what happened we are where narrative writes what to believe. We can't wait until the facts say George Floyd was wrongly murdered (likely, but the legal system needs to decide) and too many people ignore that Mike Brown was found the aggressor

We no longer take facts in the matter because "Hands Up Don't Shoot", meant to never happened with Michael Brown yet almost everyone thinks he said that and people shout it at every protest. And people then went out and executed cops in many places because reacting before understanding the facts.

Other black people have died because wrong decisions by cops and sheer stupidity, and it is wrong, happnes to white preople too. What is it by demographics? Is it outsized then too?

The vast majority of everyone thinks that



Of course MSNBC did. There is also a common thread since yesterday that the cops in Kenosha were giving the shooter water because



I am not buying your insanity, there is a difference.

MSNBC didn’t stage those videos, but they clearly showed a radical difference on how those cops were handling the arrest of two mass murderers, one clearly a physical threat, but hey poor cops being profiled for shooting a black man 7 fing times in the back. Chit at my age and no training I could have taken that guy to the ground and you expect me to believe two cops can’t handle that better. Call BS!
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

No, Ted Nugent is going to skewer a Hillary doll with his crossbow. It's going to be great.

That would be awesome.
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