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					Originally Posted by  wdmso
					 
				 
				Are US cities seeing a surge in violent crime as Trump claims? 
 
But in many major US cities, including Chicago and New York, violent crime overall is down compared with the same time last year. 
 
That can't be true because PeteF says it's under Trump's watch. 
  
  You want to stop riots let's start with with acknowledging  that killing unarmed Americans  by police is not acceptable,   regardless of their the color of their skin or their past criminal  records  or their lack of  instant obedience to orders and respect for authority  that some feel is justification  for killing unarmed civilans  
 
It depends on the circumstances.  We should start with acknowledging that riots are not acceptable.  And that protests should not only be peaceful, they should occur after the facts and judgments are in, not before. 
 
Let's Acknowledge  that bringing a gun to a protest  and killing 2 people and injuring another fellow American  is Not a patriotism  
 
Let's acknowledge that using a gun in self defense or the protection of property is a fundamental right of Americans. 
 
Let's Acknowledge  there is a clear distinction between protesting and  looting and Riots and the last 2 are not acceptable  
 
Sure. 
 
Let's acknowledge demanding accountability of police is NOT anti law enforcement  
 
Sure. 
 
Let's Acknowledge  showing up in vehicles laden with armed people and covered with Trump flags  are not counter protesters  
 
Vehicles and Trump flags should be permissible. BLM shirts and banners are OK.  And being armed for self-protection when faced with hostile rioters should be OK.  Especially when the police are unwilling, or unable to defend you. 
 
Of course, I may be wrong, but I doubt that Trump supporters or militia types would even care about actually peaceful protests. 
 
And lastly let's acknowledge  this there are  2 country's  in America a  red one and Blue one. If you listen and believe what Trump is selling to to all Americans   
 
I have no idea of what you're trying to say here. 
 
AND acknowledge That Trump is the Man who is  sowing that Narrative .. and mzny conservatives are silent 
			
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