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09-04-2020, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I think you forgot to read this part.
Besides, all that study looked at was fatal officer involved shootings and not potential police bias in general.
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what you say I forgot to post, has no real meaning.
"all that study looked at was fatal officer involved shootings and not potential police bias in general"
Does this mean you'll concede that there's no epidemic of cops waking up, and deciding to shoot a black person?
I freely concede there's bias in things like traffic stops (the data is crystal clear). Not in the use of deadly force (the data is crystal clear).
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09-04-2020, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
what you say I forgot to post, has no real meaning.
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Actually it invalidates your argument
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Does this mean you'll concede that there's no epidemic of cops waking up, and deciding to shoot a black person?
I freely concede there's bias in things like traffic stops (the data is crystal clear). Not in the use of deadly force (the data is crystal clear).
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The data isn't crystal clear. First off your report only looks at events where there's a fatality, the Jacob Blake event wouldn't even count as a statistic. Second, your own report states "The uncertainty around these estimates highlights the need for more data before drawing conclusions about disparities in specific types of shootings."
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09-04-2020, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Actually it invalidates your argument
The data isn't crystal clear. First off your report only looks at events where there's a fatality, the Jacob Blake event wouldn't even count as a statistic. Second, your own report states "The uncertainty around these estimates highlights the need for more data before drawing conclusions about disparities in specific types of shootings."
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"Actually it invalidates your argument"
Not even close. It said while there were no racial disparities, they couldn't disprove racial biases. Nor could they prove racial biases. But if a million cops were engaged in a race war, wouldn't there be SOME evidence of racial disparities in the data? There's nothing. Zip.
If the best you can say is "well the data shows no disparities, but that doesn't mean cops don't distrust blacks", fine, go ahead and cling to some nebulous, unprovable nonsense.
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09-04-2020, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Actually it invalidates your argument
The data isn't crystal clear. First off your report only looks at events where there's a fatality, the Jacob Blake event wouldn't even count as a statistic. Second, your own report states "The uncertainty around these estimates highlights the need for more data before drawing conclusions about disparities in specific types of shootings."
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The data is crystal clear that cops are not engaged in an epidemic of racial assassinations of blacks. The data could not be more clear on that.
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09-04-2020, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
The data is crystal clear that cops are not engaged in an epidemic of racial assassinations of blacks. The data could not be more clear on that.
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Your "data" only involves shootings, is from one year, only factors in fatalities and repeatedly states that more data and analysis is required.
That's not very crystal clear.
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09-04-2020, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Your "data" only involves shootings, is from one year, only factors in fatalities and repeatedly states that more data and analysis is required.
That's not very crystal clear.
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Oh, so cops are engaged in an epidemic of racist murders, but they aren't shooting their victims. Are they poisoning them? Lynching them?
Do you have any data to back up what you're saying?
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09-04-2020, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Your "data" only involves shootings, is from one year, only factors in fatalities and repeatedly states that more data and analysis is required.
That's not very crystal clear.
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It’s crystal clear if if fits your narrative
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09-04-2020, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
It’s crystal clear if if fits your narrative
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9 unarmed blacks killed
by cops in all of 2019. show us how good you are at math. what does that suggest to you?
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09-05-2020, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
9 unarmed blacks killed
by cops in all of 2019. show us how good you are at math. what does that suggest to you?
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It suggests you need to fact check your own numbers.
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