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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You not liking it, isn't debunking it.

Fatherlessness is a thousand times more destructive to the black community, as is black on black crime, than white cops will ever be. But since liberalism causes fatherlessness and black on black violence, liberals won't talk about it. Just like you will never talk about it, even though they are the crucial issues to anyone who feels black lives matter. Also school choice, another one liberals get wrong, more evidence that liberals want to keep blacks right where they are.

I agree that out of wedlock children is a problem in black communities. It's not caused by liberalism. School choice doesn't add up, it could marginally help some but the negatives are high.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I agree that out of wedlock children is a problem in black communities. It's not caused by liberalism. School choice doesn't add up, it could marginally help some but the negatives are high.

Liberalism never stops attacking the concept of the nuclear family, liberals attack faith (which encourages strong families), liberalism celebrates fatherlessness, calls men out for the absurd notion of toxic masculinity. Finally, liberals like the idea of paying single teenage girls to have babies, and to pay them a bonus if theres no dad around. Gimme a break. Liberals explicitly incentivize fatherlessness. And then act shocked when what they are incentivizing, happens more frequently?

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Liberalism never stops attacking the concept of the nuclear family, liberals attack faith (which encourages strong families),

About 80% of black people identify as Christian, it's a much higher number than whites.

liberalism celebrates fatherlessness

This is stupid.

calls men out for the absurd notion of toxic masculinity.

I guess you're supporting misogyny and homophobia then? Not sure what this has to do with race.

Finally, liberals like the idea of paying single teenage girls to have babies, and to pay them a bonus if theres no dad around. Gimme a break. Liberals explicitly incentivize fatherlessness. And then act shocked when what they are incentivizing, happens more frequently?

This is simply not true and doesn't even pass a basic smell test. Any increases to welfare or food stamps wouldn't even come close to covering the costs of a child. Do you think middle class people have more kids to get the tax credit also???

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

About 80% of black people identify as Christian, it's a much higher number than whites.


This is stupid.


I guess you're supporting misogyny and homophobia then? Not sure what this has to do with race.


This is simply not true and doesn't even pass a basic smell test. Any increases to welfare or food stamps wouldn't even come close to covering the costs of a child. Do you think middle class people have more kids to get the tax credit also???

"About 80% of black people identify as Christian, it's a much higher number than whites"

Anone can identify as anything. Pelos identifies as catholic. She ain't catholic. Looks like you dodged my question about what's causing black fatherlessness to skyrocket if its not liberalism. Daniel Patrick Moynihan called it in the 1960s.

"This is stupid."

To you, ANY criticism of liberalism is invalid. You said yourself, you cannot post one principle you have, which runs contrary to what Nancy Pelosi tells you to believe. Not. One. You don't think that's something to think about?

"I guess you're supporting misogyny and homophobia then?"

Huh? Based on what? I am pro gay marriage, and was so when Obama and Hilary both said they opposed it for religious reasons. Where did you get that?

For the second and last time, what do you think is the cause behind skyrocketing black fatherlessness?

"This is simply not true and doesn't even pass a basic smell test"

Yes it is and yes it does. Look it up. In CT, and I bet in Mass, single moms get a bigger welfare check than married moms. Guess what, it encourages fatherlessness.

"Any increases to welfare or food stamps wouldn't even come close to covering the costs of a child."

The issue is, many of the welfare queens don't spend the money on the kids. They spend it on themselves, which is one reason why that culture is in the state its in. I'm not saying I could rtaise my kids on what welfare provides. But plenty of those deadbeats take those checks, and spend a lot less than the welfare amount on their kids. Which is precisely why it's not a great idea to give them cash. Better to give them diapers and formula, harder for them to convert that to cigarettes and booze. Less incentive to make a living by having kids you won't care for.

You seem to be unaware that the issue is bad parenting. Not a lack of money.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

School choice doesn't add up, .

Yet the people in the cities with failing schools, all want it desperately. SO you know better than they do, what's best?

The only negative to school choice, is that public schools will finally and at long last, be held accountable for results. Unionized school employees don't want competition or accountability, so they tell democrats to oppose school choice, and the democrats do as their masters instruct them. And poor children are stuck in failing sh*thole schools.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I agree that out of wedlock .

So why, in your opinion, is black fatherlessness almost triple today, what it was in the 1950s? Can't wait to hear that...