Oh boy....

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Trump might not nominate anyone.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Trump might not nominate anyone.
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and Kate Upton might put on a bikini and deliver a 42’ Wesmac to my driveway today.

you are cute sometimes.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and Kate Upton might put on a bikini and deliver a 42’ Wesmac to my driveway today.

you are cute sometimes.
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I’m thinking he might use it to try and drive out more of the base, vote him in or you’ll lose your pick. Trump doesn’t care about a conservative court one whip, it’s all about winning. Remember he’s desperate.
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by spence

I’m thinking he might use it to try and drive out more of the base, vote him in or you’ll lose your pick. Trump doesn’t care about a conservative court one whip, it’s all about winning. Remember he’s desperate.
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Or he will nominate a woman.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Or he will nominate a woman.
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he’s nominating a woman, to make the democrats show the country they don’t actually like women as much as they claim to. right before the election. it’s a no win situation for the democrats, a complete disaster. it was very risky for her not to step down during the obama presidency.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I’m thinking he might use it to try and drive out more of the base, vote him in or you’ll lose your pick. Trump doesn’t care about a conservative court one whip, it’s all about winning. Remember he’s desperate.
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there is no way that hes going to roll the dice on him winning and in the gop maintaining the senate. i doubt 5 presidents in history have had the chance to shape the next 30 years that he now has. you don’t pass that up. this is possibly more
important than his re election.

and having the nation watching senate democrats smear and attack a female/minority nominee, will give him lots of political capital in the election.

he’s not desperate, he’s to cocky to think he has a chance of losing. you still don’t get him.

if i had to choose between replacing her with a conservative or trump getting re elected, id choose tilting the court to the right.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

there is no way that hes going to roll the dice on him winning and in the gop maintaining the senate. i doubt 5 presidents in history have had the chance to shape the next 30 years that he now has. you don’t pass that up. this is possibly more
important than his re election.
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It’s important to you, not to Trump. There’s no guarantee he’d even have the votes and a loss right before the election would seriously deflate a lot of enthusiasm in the base. Won’t be able to blame that on a rigged election either.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It’s important to you, not to Trump. There’s no guarantee he’d even have the votes and a loss right before the election would seriously deflate a lot of enthusiasm in the base. Won’t be able to blame that on a rigged election either.
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this is the most pro life president in history. he doesn’t want to replace ginsburg with a conservative?

you’re right, he might not have the votes, which is why i said very clearly that not having the votes is the only way he doesn’t nominate someone. i completely agree a thumbs down vote on. a nominee would be a disaster before the election. obviously.

if he has the votes, this is a disaster for the democrats. in addition to having the court shift, they are in a no win situation. if they give his female nominee the kavanaugh treatment just before the election, undecided voters may get turned off. if they don’t give her the kavanaugh treatment, they run the risk of angering the progressive wing of their base, who aren’t thrilled with biden already.

a disaster. their only hope is trump not having the votes. which could
happen, especially with susan colins up for re election. that's the democrats only hope.

what does joe manchin do? he voted for kavanaugh.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by spence

Trump might not nominate anyone.
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Interesting strategy to try driving up Republican participation / votes
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Interesting strategy to try driving up Republican participation / votes
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and about as smart as saying “i won powerball today, but i’m
not going to cash in the ticket because that way the prize will
increase next week, and hopefully i’ll win again.”

to think he’s not going to nominate someone before the election ( if they have the votes in the senate) is to know nothing about him.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

to think he’s not going to nominate someone before the election ( if they have the votes in the senate) is to know nothing about him.
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Oh he’ll nominate someone, I just don’t think they’ll put it up to a vote before the election. Worst case for Trump is he gets crushed and rams it through lame duck. Then Biden takes the oath and the prosecutions begin.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Oh he’ll nominate someone, I just don’t think they’ll put it up to a vote before the election. Worst case for Trump is he gets crushed and rams it through lame duck. Then Biden takes the oath and the prosecutions begin.
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he won’t nominate someone unless he has the votes.if they have the votes, why in god’s name would
they wait?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

he won’t nominate someone unless he has the votes.if they have the votes, why in god’s name would
they wait?
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because its the Right thing to do.. its not cryptic
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

because its the Right thing to do.. its not cryptic
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on what basis is waiting the right thing? obama didn’t wait, he nominated garland and sent the nomination to the senate. note that the senate republicans didn’t fabricate rape charges against him, or attack him for drinking beer in high school.

i’m not a huge fan of McConnell, but this is where he shines. he’s a shrewd legislative mechanic. he can most likely get 50 votes, in which case get ready for a very different SCOTUS. one that makes decisions based on what the constitution actually says, not based on what they wish it said. that’s a good thing.
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