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Old 09-22-2020, 12:42 PM   #1
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Paul, Biden said that Bush shouldn't make a nomination during an election year, and that if he did make a nomination, the senate should delay a vote. Those are Biden's words in his speech. I don't care what context someone puts it in to make it seem like he didn't contradict himself in 2016.

Those remarks cannot be misinterpreted, there is zero ambiguity. Zero.
Mr. President, where the nation should be treated to a consideration of constitutional philosophy, all it will get in such circumstances is a partisan bickering and political posturing from both parties and from both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue. As a result, it is my view that if a Supreme Court Justice resigns tomorrow, or within the next several weeks, or resigns at the end of the summer, President Bush should consider following the practice of a majority of his predecessors and not — and not — name a nominee until after the November election is completed."

Those are his exact words
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Old 09-22-2020, 12:52 PM   #2
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Mr. President, where the nation should be treated to a consideration of constitutional philosophy, all it will get in such circumstances is a partisan bickering and political posturing from both parties and from both ends of Pennsylvania Avenue. As a result, it is my view that if a Supreme Court Justice resigns tomorrow, or within the next several weeks, or resigns at the end of the summer, President Bush should consider following the practice of a majority of his predecessors and not — and not — name a nominee until after the November election is completed."

Those are his exact words
I agree. He said that presidents should not name a nominee in an election year (you conveniently left out the part where he said that if the president does make a nomination in an election year, the senate should refuse to vote).

Here is Biden's naked hypocrisy Paul. In 2016, he an dObama violated the Biden rule, and nominated a candidate during an election year.

Therefore, Biden is every bit the hypocrite that McConnell and Graham are.

Sorry, what's god for the goose...

I'm struggling to figure out how you think you are refuting my point, when you are making my point. Biden did the opposite of what he asked Bush to do.
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Old 09-22-2020, 01:28 PM   #3
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I agree. He said that presidents should not name a nominee in an election year no, he didn't say that.(you conveniently left out the part where he said that if the president does make a nomination in an election year, the senate should refuse to vote).I didn't conveniently leave anything out as I provided everything he said

Here is Biden's naked hypocrisy Paul. In 2016, he an dObama violated the Biden rule, and nominated a candidate during an election year.

Therefore, Biden is every bit the hypocrite that McConnell and Graham are.

Sorry, what's god for the goose...

I'm struggling to figure out how you think you are refuting my point, when you are making my point. Biden did the opposite of what he asked Bush to do.
I've only provided what he said - "...After the election"

Some will criticize such a decision and say it was nothing more than an attempt to save a seat on the court in the hopes that a Democrat will be permitted to fill it. But that would not be our intention, Mr. President, if that were the course we were to choose in the Senate — to not consider holding hearings until after the election. Instead, it would be our pragmatic conclusion that once the political season is under way, and it is, action on a Supreme Court nomination must be put off until after the election campaign is over."
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I've only provided what he said - "...After the election"

Some will criticize such a decision and say it was nothing more than an attempt to save a seat on the court in the hopes that a Democrat will be permitted to fill it. But that would not be our intention, Mr. President, if that were the course we were to choose in the Senate — to not consider holding hearings until after the election. Instead, it would be our pragmatic conclusion that once the political season is under way, and it is, action on a Supreme Court nomination must be put off until after the election campaign is over."
"no, he didn't say that"

Are you feeling OK? Yes, he did.

"I didn't conveniently leave anything out as I provided everything he said "

Wrong. Biden said that if a president made a nomination in an election year, the senate should refuse to have a vote. Watch the video!

Even the article you posted to "counter" my argument, admitted he said there should be no nominations in an election year. They just pointed out there didn't happen to be any nominations in that election year, so push never came to shove. But the article you posted, said that the Biden Rule was a rule saying presidents should not make nominations in an election year.

My god, you turned into Pete.
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"no, he didn't say that"

Are you feeling OK? Yes, he did.

"I didn't conveniently leave anything out as I provided everything he said "

Wrong. Biden said that if a president made a nomination in an election year, the senate should refuse to have a vote. Watch the video!

Even the article you posted to "counter" my argument, admitted he said there should be no nominations in an election year. They just pointed out there didn't happen to be any nominations in that election year, so push never came to shove. But the article you posted, said that the Biden Rule was a rule saying presidents should not make nominations in an election year.

My god, you turned into Pete.
He said until after the election is over.
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