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10-07-2020, 07:57 PM
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Look who doing well
Billionaires see fortunes rise by 27% during the pandemic
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10-08-2020, 02:28 PM
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It will trickle down. Don’t worry.
Amazon prime day is coming.
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10-08-2020, 03:27 PM
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Billionaires see fortunes rise by 27% during the pandemic
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what would you do? pass a law saying people
can no longer earn money when their net worth hits a certain level?
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10-08-2020, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
what would you do? pass a law saying people
can no longer earn money when their net worth hits a certain level?
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Big picture Jim big picture. I bet our personal income tax % is higher than theirs
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10-08-2020, 05:06 PM
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I know this is complicated but most of their wealth is a result of the value of their business...they are doing well because their businesses are doing a lot of business.....maybe we should restrict their ability to do business so they can't do so well?
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10-08-2020, 07:52 PM
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Unfettered capitalism is Amazon inflating its prices on essential items by as much as 1000% during the pandemic while Jeff Bezos refuses to provide sick leave to his warehouse workers.
But they’re making money and who would claim that profiting off a pandemic is bad, hmmm....
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10-08-2020, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Unfettered capitalism is Amazon inflating its prices on essential items by as much as 1000% during the pandemic while Jeff Bezos refuses to provide sick leave to his warehouse workers.
But they’re making money and who would claim that profiting off a pandemic is bad, hmmm....
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Capitalism, free market, individual liberty, unalienable rights, and more, were all pretty much fettered during the lockdowns. Some crony capitalists did well, a whole lot of smaller businesses were destroyed.
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10-09-2020, 02:36 AM
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yes, we don't fetter capitalism at all in America 
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10-09-2020, 06:06 AM
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yes, we don't fetter capitalism at all in America 
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Sadly it became necessary due to this administration letting this virus get out of control and with death tolls on the way to 300,000 or fearless leader continues the messaging that exacerbated the problem from the beginning, even when he knew the facts up front. But wait I’m confused a DeBarr stated the economy was making a robust recovery, is that only for the few and the small get screwed. Conflicting messaging how can this be?
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10-09-2020, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Sadly it became necessary due to this administration letting this virus get out of control and with death tolls on the way to 300,000 or fearless leader continues the messaging that exacerbated the problem from the beginning, even when he knew the facts up front. But wait I’m confused a DeBarr stated the economy was making a robust recovery, is that only for the few and the small get screwed. Conflicting messaging how can this be?
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do you just pull on a string and repeat the same thing over and over?
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10-09-2020, 08:11 AM
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This isn't about the ability of some to make money its Pandemic 'Profiteers'
We taxed war profits , this once again is more corporate socialism
Its funny to see conservatives attack immigrants for stealing jobs not paying taxes
But when corporations and business make billions , and these profits never are shared with employees via pay or health care, what do conservative say to employees find another job if you don't like your pay, and they praise the companies for making money and for not paying taxes
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10-09-2020, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
This isn't about the ability of some to make money its Pandemic 'Profiteers'
We taxed war profits , this once again is more corporate socialism
Its funny to see conservatives attack immigrants for stealing jobs not paying taxes
But when corporations and business make billions , and these profits never are shared with employees via pay or health care, what do conservative say to employees find another job if you don't like your pay, and they praise the companies for making money and for not paying taxes
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this is gibberish
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10-09-2020, 09:49 AM
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Big picture Jim big picture. I bet our personal income tax % is higher than theirs
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maybe. but obama has a democrat congress to change that if he wanted to, and he didn’t.
their rate is only lower than mine and yours, if their income
comes from capital
gains and not ordinary income. i don’t have a problem
with capital gains tax rates being low enough to encourage people
to invest. maybe you make it more progressive above certain amounts.
for all the liberal whining on this, obama and the democrat congress never tried to fix it. there’s a reason why.
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10-09-2020, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
I know this is complicated but most of their wealth is a result of the value of their business...they are doing well because their businesses are doing a lot of business.....maybe we should restrict their ability to do business so they can't do so well?
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that’s the question they should
answer.
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10-09-2020, 01:51 PM
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The U.S. population has more than doubled since the 1960s, when most of the country’s major infrastructure systems were designed. Many are reaching the end of their lifespan, and are dangerously overstretched, experts say.
What do you think the tax rate was on the upper crust when all these aging roads, bridges, railways and utilities were built? Just where do you think than next major slug of money should come from, just what segment of the American tax paying public do you think probably can easily survive a tax bump to finance long overdue infrastructure repairs?
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10-09-2020, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
The U.S. population has more than doubled since the 1960s, when most of the country’s major infrastructure systems were designed. Many are reaching the end of their lifespan, and are dangerously overstretched, experts say.
What do you think the tax rate was on the upper crust when all these aging roads, bridges, railways and utilities were built? Just where do you think than next major slug of money should come from, just what segment of the American tax paying public do you think probably can easily survive a tax bump to finance long overdue infrastructure repairs?
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we all use the roads and bridges, we all have to pony up. The wealthy will pony up, and pay a disproportionate share, as they always do. It won't be enough for the Reds, it never is.
This incessant fixation of what 0.01% of the population is doing. Who cares?
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10-09-2020, 02:31 PM
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funny republican gave billions in tax cuts to the rich
but now are saying the covid relief bill it do big and now are concerned about the Budget .. rather than helping the Avg american
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10-09-2020, 03:45 PM
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funny republican gave billions in tax cuts to the rich
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more lies.
he also doubled the standard deduction, and increased child tax credits. neither of these provides any benefit whatsoever, to the rich.
when you are forced to
lie to defend what you believe, it might be time
to question why you believe what you believe.
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10-09-2020, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
more lies.
he also doubled the standard deduction, and increased child tax credits. neither of these provides any benefit whatsoever, to the rich.
when you are forced to
lie to defend what you believe, it might be time
to question why you believe what you believe.
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Would you like some cream on top of your cherry picking?
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10-09-2020, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
more lies.
he also doubled the standard deduction, and increased child tax credits. neither of these provides any benefit whatsoever, to the rich.
when you are forced to
lie to defend what you believe, it might be time
to question why you believe what you believe.
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Jim your like a dog under the table while every everyone around the table is eating the finest meats your excited when those at the table provide you with piece of Gristle.. convincing yourself they gave that out of concern for your well-being and improving you existence... saying see even us dogs got some. Stop lying for them thats what they want
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10-09-2020, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Jim your like a dog under the table while every everyone around the table is eating the finest meats your excited when those at the table provide you with piece of Gristle.. convincing yourself they gave that out of concern for your well-being and improving you existence... saying see even us dogs got some. Stop lying for them thats what they want
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fact - part of the trump tax cuts doubled the standard deduction, and greatly increased child
tax credits. my
liability went down by about 2500 a year. that’s not gristle to us.
all you have is made up bullsh*t. you’re wrong. you’re demonstrably wrong about the tax cuts. working families with a couple of
kids hit a big break. that’s just fact.
it would be easier for you if the trump only helped the wealthy. that’s just not what happened.
again, when you have to deny reality to defend your beliefs, you’re in a cult.
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10-09-2020, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Would you like some cream on top of your cherry picking?
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(1) did he double
the standard deduction?
(2) did he expand child
tax credits?
(3) do either of those things help the elite wealthy?
answers. yes, yes, no.
you want to argue that more could have gone to working people, you get no argument from
me. you claim, as harris just did in the debate, that the cuts only helped the wealthy, and youre lying.
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10-10-2020, 06:36 AM
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And it cost us trillions
In an expanding economy
Now his schizophrenic approach to the virus has our economy in a flat spin, the grounds coming up and he’s flailing
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10-10-2020, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
And it cost us trillions
In an expanding economy
Now his schizophrenic approach to the virus has our economy in a flat spin, the grounds coming up and he’s flailing
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economy is doing pretty good considering....
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10-10-2020, 09:38 AM
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More trillions fluffing the markets
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10-10-2020, 10:16 AM
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And it cost us trillions
In an expanding economy
Now his schizophrenic approach to the virus has our economy in a flat spin, the grounds coming up and he’s flailing
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and that’s fair. but not fair to say it only helped the wealthy.
conservative=bad, liberal=good, no exceptions, not ever. right?
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10-10-2020, 10:18 AM
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More trillions fluffing the markets
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also fluffing employment, pre covid?
are you afraid that if you say one complimentary thing about trump, that everyone will hear about it and vote for him? are you afraid you’ll die?
i don’t get the need you all have to deny reality that doesn’t fit the orangemanbad message.
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10-10-2020, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
also fluffing employment, pre covid?
are you afraid that if you say one complimentary thing about trump, that everyone will hear about it and vote for him? are you afraid you’ll die?
i don’t get the need you all have to deny reality that doesn’t fit the orangemanbad message.
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I can compliment him on his Halloween skin tone it’s perfect for this month and he is one scary SOB.
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10-10-2020, 11:22 AM
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I can compliment him on his Halloween skin tone it’s perfect for this month and he is one scary SOB.
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And you once accused me of being one sarcastic SOB. Pot Kettle.
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10-10-2020, 12:04 PM
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Just calling a pumpkin a pumpkin it is the season.
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