Feinstein’s opening statement in Barrett hearings

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

You always come back to the famous “partial” travel ban, boy are you stuck on that, consider it did nothing to prevent Covid coming in from Europe or from US citizens allowed back in from China with little testing or quarantine. Like a screen door on a submarine, but you hang your MAGA hat on it with pride.

"You always come back to the famous “partial” travel ban, boy are you stuck on that"

It's th eone thing Trump did. It the democrats said it was an overreaction.

"it did nothing to prevent Covid coming in from Europe or from US citizens allowed back in from China with little testing or quarantine"

I'm not saying the travel restrictions helped or didn't help. I'm saying he implemented that ban early, and all the elected democrats and everyone in the media, said it was an overreaction. You had very prominent democrats - Pelosi and Diblasio - encouraging people to go to crowded public places in late February. You have Biden saying Trumps travel restrictions were "hysterical" and "xenophobic". If they get a pass, then on what basis do you attack Trump? Trump was more conservative than they were. If Trump is guilty of not doing enough (and maybe that's fair), then how can they not be more guilty? They were saying into late February, that the virus wasn't serious enough to warrant even Trumps travle restrictions. Again, you can't have it both ways. But that's what you're trying to do.

I'm very reluctant to give anyone grades on this issue, I just don't know enough. But it's absurd to give Cuomo and Pelosi and Biden a pass for what they said and did, and simultaneously say Trump should have done much more. There's no logic to that, that's pure partisan bullsh*t, and it's what every one of you is doing.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I'm not saying the travel restrictions helped or didn't help. I'm saying he implemented that ban early, and all the elected democrats and everyone in the media, said it was an overreaction.

I don't remember any prominent Democrat criticizing the travel restrictions. It was the recommendation by HHS and many airlines were already canceling flights.

You have Biden saying Trumps travel restrictions were "hysterical" and "xenophobic".

He never said this Jim.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't remember any prominent Democrat criticizing the travel restrictions. It was the recommendation by HHS and many airlines were already canceling flights.


He never said this Jim.

"I don't remember any prominent Democrat criticizing the travel restrictions."

You're lying, or amazingly ignorant. Biden said it was hysterical and xenophobic. Pelosi introduced a bill in the House to undo the travel restrictions, even Chris Cuomo pans her for that.

Where in Gods name do you get your news?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"I don't remember any prominent Democrat criticizing the travel restrictions."

You're lying, or amazingly ignorant. Biden said it was hysterical and xenophobic. Pelosi introduced a bill in the House to undo the travel restrictions, even Chris Cuomo pans her for that.

Where in Gods name do you get your news?

clearly not where you get yours

It’s true that Biden has referred to Trump and some of his statements and actions in the context of his handling of the coronavirus outbreak as “xenophobic.” But it’s unclear whether Biden was specifically referencing Trump’s travel restriction on China, as Trump has claimed.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

clearly not where you get yours

It’s true that Biden has referred to Trump and some of his statements and actions in the context of his handling of the coronavirus outbreak as “xenophobic.” But it’s unclear whether Biden was specifically referencing Trump’s travel restriction on China, as Trump has claimed.

xenophobic and hysterical. and pelosi tried to pass a bill in the house to overturn the travel restrictions.

same question for
you, based on what we knew in december and january, what should
we have done?
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

xenophobic and hysterical. and pelosi tried to pass a bill in the house to overturn the travel restrictions.

same question for
you, based on what we knew in december and january, what should
we have done?
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She was just giving Moscow Mitch something NOT to do, he hates working and passing bills.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

She was just giving Moscow Mitch something NOT to do, he hates working and passing bills.

It's interesting, you're all very critical of Trumps handling of the virus (which again, may be fair...maybe he deserves an F on that issue, I'm just not sure, I feel like I'm always playing catch up, but I'm not blindly defending him). Yet when I ask you guys what he should have done differently in December/January, based on what we knew then, I don't think any of you has come up with one single thing he should have done differently.

Which means you give him an F because you hate him, but you don't know why.

We basically shut the country down, and everyone is wearing masks and social distancing. Many countries didn't go nearly that far. What more was he supposed to do?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

She was just giving Moscow Mitch something NOT to do, he hates working and passing bills.

so we should have passed a bill overturning the travel restrictions? Yet you say he didn't do enough?

In other words, no matter what he does or doesn't do, it's wrong, because he's Trump. Why not just admit that you're all that thoughtless?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

xenophobic and hysterical. and pelosi tried to pass a bill in the house to overturn the travel restrictions.

same question for
you, based on what we knew in december and january, what should
we have done?
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Jim stop looking in the rear view mirror
Thats all Trump has ever done with covid after that hes been wishing it away... meanwhile were 20% of the worlds covid deaths and counting but we've rounded the Bend?

Look at the last 30 days

you're all very critical of Trumps handling of the virus (which again, may be fair...maybe he deserves an F on that issue, I'm just not sure



Your not sure? Do you hear the words that spill from his mouth?

A lot of traditional Republicans are really tearing into trump TDS can't always be the excuse.. can it?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim stop looking in the rear view mirror
Thats all Trump has ever done with covid after that hes been wishing it away... meanwhile were 20% of the worlds covid deaths and counting but we've rounded the Bend?

Look at the last 30 days

you're all very critical of Trumps handling of the virus (which again, may be fair...maybe he deserves an F on that issue, I'm just not sure



Your not sure? Do you hear the words that spill from his mouth?

A lot of traditional Republicans are really tearing into trump TDS can't always be the excuse.. can it?
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"Jim stop looking in the rear view mirror"

You're the ones saying he did a lousy job...

"Your not sure?"

In terms of the virus, I'm not sure what we should have done differently. Some nations didn't do lockdowns and are doing OK. Should we have gone that route? I don't know.

For the 5th time, what should he have done differently in the beginning, based on what we knew then? Not one of you can come close to answering that.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"You always come back to the famous “partial” travel ban, boy are you stuck on that"

It's th eone thing Trump did. It the democrats said it was an overreaction.

"it did nothing to prevent Covid coming in from Europe or from US citizens allowed back in from China with little testing or quarantine"

I'm not saying the travel restrictions helped or didn't help. I'm saying he implemented that ban early, and all the elected democrats and everyone in the media, said it was an overreaction. You had very prominent democrats - Pelosi and Diblasio - encouraging people to go to crowded public places in late February. You have Biden saying Trumps travel restrictions were "hysterical" and "xenophobic". If they get a pass, then on what basis do you attack Trump? Trump was more conservative than they were. If Trump is guilty of not doing enough (and maybe that's fair), then how can they not be more guilty? They were saying into late February, that the virus wasn't serious enough to warrant even Trumps travle restrictions. Again, you can't have it both ways. But that's what you're trying to do.

I'm very reluctant to give anyone grades on this issue, I just don't know enough. But it's absurd to give Cuomo and Pelosi and Biden a pass for what they said and did, and simultaneously say Trump should have done much more. There's no logic to that, that's pure partisan bullsh*t, and it's what every one of you is doing.

Jim since it’s the World Series opener today let’s go with a baseball analogy. It would be like watching your starting pitcher fan the first three batters he faces, then giving up three walks with grand slam in the third, back to back home runs in a five run forth, then putting three on to start the fifth and still not pulling him. Jim the manager keeps saying to the team hey remember how good he was in the first two innings we could still win with him, let’s make this team great again.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Jim since it’s the World Series opener today let’s go with a baseball analogy. It would be like watching your starting pitcher fan the first three batters he faces, then giving up three walks with grand slam in the third, back to back home runs in a five run forth, then putting three on to start the fifth and still not pulling him. Jim the manager keeps saying to the team hey remember how good he was in the first two innings we could still win with him, let’s make this team great again.

again, you’re completely ignoring what the democrats did.

in your analogy, the democrats were in favor of leaving the starting pitcher in after the three walks, then after the home
run and only then, are they acting like the manager should have known to take him out.

there weren’t any orominent democrats in january and february, calling for more severe reaction.

we closed schools and shut the economy down. almost everyone is wearing masks outside. what more do you want? what more should we have done??

we bent the curve, which everyone said wasn’t guaranteed. no hospitals were overwhelmed, out of respirators. unemployment and the stock market coming back. m

way too many dead, but what were democrats suggesting in january, which trump ignored, which would
have helped? can you name
anything at all?
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