Herd immunity is not a strategy, it is a biological fact

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Aha! So you'll give the scientists the benefit of a learning curve, but not Trump, who is supposed to listen to the scientists.

You guys are unbelievable.

You forgot...Second, the study was only about thin homemade fabric masks, not masks in general. Third, it's doesn't say homemade masks don't help, it just says there's not enough data to claim that they do.

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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

You forgot...Second, the study was only about thin homemade fabric masks, not masks in general. Third, it's doesn't say homemade masks don't help, it just says there's not enough data to claim that they do.

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thin masks and gaters, which many people are wearing. it sure what you’re seeing out there.
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

thin masks and gaters, which many people are wearing. it sure what you’re seeing out there.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

A lot of people wear homemade masks as when the pandemic got rolling that's about all you could get. Now I see much more if not most people wearing much thicker commercially made masks or KN95's as I don't think N95's are easy to come by yet.

I don't know if the CDC has issued a recommendation on bandanas or neck gators but I don't see much of that around here. The bandanas seem to mostly be people who don't want to wear a mask but need to walk into the store or get some nips after work.

Regardless, none of this is really material to the fact that you still haven't provided a single link that proves "There are peer reviewed studies showing masks do nothing."

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

A lot of people wear homemade masks as when the pandemic got rolling that's about all you could get. Now I see much more if not most people wearing much thicker commercially made masks or KN95's as I don't think N95's are easy to come by yet.

I don't know if the CDC has issued a recommendation on bandanas or neck gators but I don't see much of that around here. The bandanas seem to mostly be people who don't want to wear a mask but need to walk into the store or get some nips after work.

Regardless, none of this is really material to the fact that you still haven't provided a single link that proves "There are peer reviewed studies showing masks do nothing."

https://www.globalresearch.ca/do-fac...tudies/5723124

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Originally Posted by detbuch

https://www.globalresearch.ca/do-fac...tudies/5723124

On the surface nothing in those studies referenced back up Jim's claim. I didn't bother to dig deeper because:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/global-research/

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

On the surface nothing in those studies referenced back up Jim's claim. I didn't bother to dig deeper because:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/global-research/

I find mediabiasfactcheck to be biased. Their sources are not always trustworthy. Any factcheck org that uses the Southern Poverty Law Center as a source, loses any credibility with me.

That said, from your factchecker: "in review, GlobalResearch publishes a combination of real news and conspiracy theories." Being as there were synopses of peer reviewed articles, this should fall into the "real news" categories.

At any rate, you wanted an example. None of the studies, btw, said that masks did "nothing." To a nit-picking degree, Jim may be hard put to find a peer reviewed study that proves that masks do nothing. But more important is that there are differing scientific opinions about various aspects of the virus. That leads to uncertainty in the public.

And, more importantly, blaming Trump for the mask controversy, especially in the important early stages where many "experts" downplayed the effectiveness or necessity of wearing masks, is more politically motivated than factual.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

A lot of people wear homemade masks as when the pandemic got rolling that's about all you could get. Now I see much more if not most people wearing much thicker commercially made masks or KN95's as I don't think N95's are easy to come by yet.

...this is ridiculous

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

...this is ridiculous

It's like your go to. Please think before you post.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

It's like your go to. Please think before you post.

you write a lotta stupid stuff