why won’t trump disavow white supremacy?

[Pete F.]

Trump mandated children separation from the parents. Obama didn’t. Those fences were used for children brought here without anyone else. They weren’t brought here and ripped from families. Trumps order back in May 2018. Not Obama.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Trump mandated children separation from the parents. Obama didn’t.
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so how did those
kids get in cages by themselves, during the obama years.

you’re really coming unglued.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Trump mandated children separation from the parents. Obama didn’t. Those fences were used for children brought here without anyone else. They weren’t brought here and ripped from families. Trumps order back in May 2018. Not Obama.
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Actually the fence partitions weren't created for just kids, it was largely families and young men.

But you're exactly right that under Obama children were only separated when there was a risk of harm or dangerous criminal activity assessed. Trump changed the policy to automatically charge all adults making the separation mandatory. It's effectively state sponsored child abuse as a deterrent to migration and it's totally depraved.

Per the parents not wanting children back, think for a second and it's likely most of these are hoping their kids get to stay and have a chance at a better life. It's why they came in the first place.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by spence

Actually the fence partitions weren't created for just kids, it was largely families and young men.

But you're exactly right that under Obama children were only separated when there was a risk of harm or dangerous criminal activity assessed. Trump changed the policy to automatically charge all adults making the separation mandatory. It's effectively state sponsored child abuse as a deterrent to migration and it's totally depraved.

Per the parents not wanting children back, think for a second and it's likely most of these are hoping their kids get to stay and have a chance at a better life. It's why they came in the first place.

Stop talking logic it’s a foreign language which Jim for sure won’t understand and while Scott probably will he is too mean and cranky to admit. Trump was warned by multiple agencies and people close to him that change in policy was wrong, but as we all know by now if someone tells a Trump something he plans is wrong he doubles down on it.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Actually the fence partitions weren't created for just kids, it was largely families and young men.

But you're exactly right that under Obama children were only separated when there was a risk of harm or dangerous criminal activity assessed. Trump changed the policy to automatically charge all adults making the separation mandatory. It's effectively state sponsored child abuse as a deterrent to migration and it's totally depraved.

Per the parents not wanting children back, think for a second and it's likely most of these are hoping their kids get to stay and have a chance at a better life. It's why they came in the first place.

sincere question. what is trump
supposed to do, when children are picked up with adults who aren’t their parents? and then when we contact the parents, they don’t want the kids returned? what is trump
supposed to do? because that’s what’s happening.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

sincere question. what is trump
supposed to do, .

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according to spence...these parents come from a foreign country with kids in tow...when we catch them at the border we put their kids in cages and send the parents back to their country of origin and then we call the parents months later and say "hey, but the way...do you want your kids back?'...and the parents say..."no, that's ok...you can keep them"


makes sense....right?

[Pete F.]

They made a choice to charge all with criminal offenses and therefore separated all parents from children.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

sincere question. what is trump
supposed to do, when children are picked up with adults who aren’t their parents? and then when we contact the parents, they don’t want the kids returned? what is trump
supposed to do? because that’s what’s happening.
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1st of Jim the issues of when children are picked up with adults who aren’t their parents? is not the issue

the issue seems Trumps administration saw anyone picked up with children were by policy separated as a form of coercion to send a message not out a concern they were being trafficked

2nd about parents who dont want their kid .. you need a better source

The Trump campaign’s communications director asserted on Friday that the reason some migrant families separated by the administration at the U.S. border have not been reunited is because the parents do not want their children back.


think about it Id rather leave my kid in America and hope for a better future then put them back were the out come is certain . so I am sure a few parents have made that choice .. not 500 of them

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

1st of Jim the issues of when children are picked up with adults who aren’t their parents? is not the issue

the issue seems Trumps administration saw anyone picked up with children were by policy separated as a form of coercion to send a message not out a concern they were being trafficked

2nd about parents who dont want their kid .. you need a better source

The Trump campaign’s communications director asserted on Friday that the reason some migrant families separated by the administration at the U.S. border have not been reunited is because the parents do not want their children back.


think about it Id rather leave my kid in America and hope for a better future then put them back were the out come is certain . so I am sure a few parents have made that choice .. not 500 of them

How do you know that it's not the case that the parents don't want the kids? How could you know that?

"1st of Jim the issues of when children are picked up with adults who aren’t their parents? is not the issue "

Yes it is, with the 500 kids in question.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

How do you know that it's not the case that the parents don't want the kids? How could you know that?

"1st of Jim the issues of when children are picked up with adults who aren’t their parents? is not the issue "

Yes it is, with the 500 kids in question.

And the Trump campaign is your source ..

I have never doubted some parents are and have willing to left their children for a more hopeful future. But 500 of them that they can't find and like a typical republican you blame the family's saying they don't want their kids..

Refresh my memory who separated them ? Who deported parents minus their kids. Oh wait The United States of America did at Trumps direction

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

1


think about it Id rather leave my kid in America and hope for a better future then put them back were the out come is certain . :

As a liberal who supports the slaughter of babies and rejects the notion of responsibility, I have no problem whatsoever accepting that you would abandon your kids and let someone else be responsible for them. There's most of the democratic platform in one sentence..."I freely chose to have the kids, but accept absolutely zero responsibility for my actions, and I expect someone else to take my place and do the work that I should be doing myself. Yet I'll still criticize those into whose laps I have dumped the most basic, fundamental responsibility since the dawn of time."

The question I asked Pete and Spence, which they both dodged, I'll ask you. What do you do with those kids?