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12-22-2020, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
It’s not a false equivalence. You said it’s anti american for the federal government to use troops in our cities. i provided a famous example. you knew you lost, so you babble about a false equivalence.
what you’re saying, is it would only be unamerican if trump did it.
for the second time wayne, if you invested your life savings in a small business, and it was being ransacked by rioters, and your state and local government chose not to enforce the law....you said it would be un american for you to wish that the feds would send in troops?
better for you to just watch them burn your business down? that’s what you’d do?
why won’t you answer?
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You still have no concept on why Trump wanted to send Troops, his desire had nothing to do with law an order or saving any American small business ( his absent in the Covid bill re enforces he doesn’t care about American small business or Americans in general) he just wanted to send in the Troops to fulfill the fantasies of his supporters like you. And show those libs who’s boss. Nothing more it was a state issue..
And seeing you still have a lack of understanding When the governor of Arkansas failed to integrate Central High School, President Eisenhower called in federal troops to protect the Little Rock Nine.
The Arkansas National Guard was drawn into the conflict when Governor Orval Faubus ordered them to "Preserve the Peace" by turning away the black students who were attempting to integrate into Little Rock's Central High School. United States President Dwight D. Eisenhower reacted to this use of the Guard to foil the court-ordered integration by federalizing the entire Arkansas National Guard and using it to protect the nine black students integrating Central High School.
If that’s to hard to understand I’ll make it easier
Eisenhower did what he did to
Uphold Civil Rights And Protect Black Americans.
Trump Is Trying To Silence Dissent with his threats Send in the feds
The 2 are still not remotely the same
Ps Trump never actually did anything
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12-22-2020, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
You still have no concept on why Trump wanted to send Troops, his desire had nothing to do with law an order or saving any American small business ( his absent in the Covid bill re enforces he doesn’t care about American small business or Americans in general) he just wanted to send in the Troops to fulfill the fantasies of his supporters like you. And show those libs who’s boss. Nothing more it was a state issue..
And seeing you still have a lack of understanding When the governor of Arkansas failed to integrate Central High School, President Eisenhower called in federal troops to protect the Little Rock Nine.
The Arkansas National Guard was drawn into the conflict when Governor Orval Faubus ordered them to "Preserve the Peace" by turning away the black students who were attempting to integrate into Little Rock's Central High School. United States President Dwight D. Eisenhower reacted to this use of the Guard to foil the court-ordered integration by federalizing the entire Arkansas National Guard and using it to protect the nine black students integrating Central High School.
If that’s to hard to understand I’ll make it easier
Eisenhower did what he did to
Uphold Civil Rights And Protect Black Americans.
Trump Is Trying To Silence Dissent with his threats Send in the feds
The 2 are still not remotely the same
Ps Trump never actually did anything
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trump didn’t want to send troops, which is why he didn’t. i think that was a horrible decision. if he wanted to send troops, he would have.
ever notice that i can answer your questions, while all you do is dodge?
“Eisenhower did what he did to uphold civil rights.”
agreed!
but why don’t homeowners and small business owners in cities destroyed by riots, have the same rights?
that’s the third time i’ve asked that same exact question. three times. zero answers from you. because you know i’m right.
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12-22-2020, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
trump didn’t want to send troops, which is why he didn’t. i think that was a horrible decision. if he wanted to send troops, he would have.
ever notice that i can answer your questions, while all you do is dodge?
“Eisenhower did what he did to uphold civil rights.”
agreed!
but why don’t homeowners and small business owners in cities destroyed by riots, have the same rights?
that’s the third time i’ve asked that same exact question. three times. zero answers from you. because you know i’m right.
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States responsibility not federal governments it’s that easy , the right doesn’t care about those business they used that as cover to and justify the rittenhouses of the work the pro administration boys and the latest group in or Oregon milita who tried to storm the state house , not threat to send troops to deal with them , why because they supported Trump and he loved it
As for business destroyed how about Covid what do Republicans pass 3 martinis 100% right off for corporate American
What do dems ask for Earned income tax credit.
See the difference
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12-22-2020, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
States responsibility not federal governments it’s that easy , the right doesn’t care about those business they used that as cover to and justify the rittenhouses of the work the pro administration boys and the latest group in or Oregon milita who tried to storm the state house , not threat to send troops to deal with them , why because they supported Trump and he loved it
As for business destroyed how about Covid what do Republicans pass 3 martinis 100% right off for corporate American
What do dems ask for Earned income tax credit.
See the difference
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"States responsibility not federal governments it’s that easy "
But what happens when the state fails in that responsibility, as in th ecase of teh Arkansas redneck governor? Why are you OK with Eisenhower sending in troops to keep the peace, but not Trump? Federal law specifically allows the feds to send in troops in certain situations, it's been done multiple times. So you're demonstrably wrong. It's primarily the state's responsibility, but when the state cannot or will not live up to that responsibility, it's the federal government's responsibility.
"the right doesn’t care about those business"
First, you are a lousy, lousy mindreader. I care about those business owners. Second, It seems like YOU are the one who doesn't care, because I asked you three times what those people are supposed to do when the state can't keep peace, and you havent answered. As so often happens, you are unable to respond to such a simple and obvious question, because even you know there is no sane answer that supports your agenda.
"As for business destroyed how about Covid"
State governments destroyed small businesses in response to covid, not politically motivated rioters. Talk about a false equivalence!
"what do Republicans pass 3 martinis 100% right off for corporate American"
Sorry, I can't find my gibberish --> English dictionary, I don't know what that means. I do know that our economy is in a v-shaped recovery, we're WAAAYY better off than most people thought we'd be at this point.
For the 4th time...what should small business owners do, when rioters are attacking their businesses, and the state can't (or won't) help them? It's "un American" for the military to help them? But it was OK for the military to help the Little Rock 9? So you're saying black students have more of a right to go to school, than business owners have of not watching their business get destroyed? Is that what you're saying? Business owners have no right to expect that their property will be protected?
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12-22-2020, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"States responsibility not federal governments it’s that easy "
But what happens when the state fails in that responsibility, as in th ecase of teh Arkansas redneck governor? Why are you OK with Eisenhower sending in troops to keep the peace, but not Trump? Federal law specifically allows the feds to send in troops in certain situations, it's been done multiple times. So you're demonstrably wrong. It's primarily the state's responsibility, but when the state cannot or will not live up to that responsibility, it's the federal government's responsibility.
"the right doesn’t care about those business"
First, you are a lousy, lousy mindreader. I care about those business owners. Second, It seems like YOU are the one who doesn't care, because I asked you three times what those people are supposed to do when the state can't keep peace, and you havent answered. As so often happens, you are unable to respond to such a simple and obvious question, because even you know there is no sane answer that supports your agenda.
"As for business destroyed how about Covid"
State governments destroyed small businesses in response to covid, not politically motivated rioters. Talk about a false equivalence!
"what do Republicans pass 3 martinis 100% right off for corporate American"
Sorry, I can't find my gibberish --> English dictionary, I don't know what that means. I do know that our economy is in a v-shaped recovery, we're WAAAYY better off than most people thought we'd be at this point.
For the 4th time...what should small business owners do, when rioters are attacking their businesses, and the state can't (or won't) help them? It's "un American" for the military to help them? But it was OK for the military to help the Little Rock 9? So you're saying black students have more of a right to go to school, than business owners have of not watching their business get destroyed? Is that what you're saying? Business owners have no right to expect that their property will be protected?
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go back and read about why Ike sent in troops lets start with that
then maybe you will understand why things were done. and the reasons for thoses actions
It's "un American" for the military to help them? another easy one to Answer YES another topic you should read up on .. what is the role of the Military actual is and is not . because right now you have no clue on the matter
So you're saying black students have more of a right to go to school, than business owners have of not watching their business get destroyed?
again go read some history on federal responsibilities and State responsibilities... the 2 are not remotely the same
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12-22-2020, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
go back and read about why Ike sent in troops lets start with that
then maybe you will understand why things were done. and the reasons for thoses actions
It's "un American" for the military to help them? another easy one to Answer YES another topic you should read up on .. what is the role of the Military actual is and is not . because right now you have no clue on the matter
So you're saying black students have more of a right to go to school, than business owners have of not watching their business get destroyed?
again go read some history on federal responsibilities and State responsibilities... the 2 are not remotely the same
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for the 5th time, what should
those business owners do? why won’t you answer that question?
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12-22-2020, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
for the 5th time, what should
those business owners do? why won’t you answer that question?
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I have given you your answer but as always when it’s not the one you want to hear you suggest it wasn’t answered, classic
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