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01-15-2021, 07:36 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by scottw
oh good...meaningless snapshot polls from corrupt news organizations 
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Quiet, don’t tell Jim snapshot polls are meaningless.
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01-15-2021, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Quiet, don’t tell Jim snapshot polls are meaningless.
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01-15-2021, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Traitors
Quiet, don’t tell Jim snapshot polls are meaningless.
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I think you did...perhaps you should inform pete as well....
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Originally Posted by Got Traitors View Post
"are you really stating the extremely small sampling the XYZ poll takes is a true representation of the millions of Americans?"
it's funny how many things sail right over your head...
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01-15-2021, 08:32 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by scottw
I think you did...perhaps you should inform pete as well....
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Originally Posted by Got Traitors View Post
"are you really stating the extremely small sampling the XYZ poll takes is a true representation of the millions of Americans?"
it's funny how many things sail right over your head...
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Wow thanks captain obvious for pointing out something I was aware I posted, but thanks for reinforcing my jab at Jim.
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01-15-2021, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Wow thanks captain obvious for pointing out something I was aware I posted, but thanks for reinforcing my jab at Jim.
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more like a pinch from a girl.
if snapshot polls are meaningless, what’s your take on a presidential
impeachment vote in the house, done in a couple of hours? you’re ok with snap impeachment it seems. were there any hearings, any testimony, any interviews with those who were arrested?
forget the poll ( which is what you do to poll you don’t like). look at this list ( a selective list of his good accomplishments, it’s not everything you need to know about the last 4 years), and tell me why people wouldn’t conclude these things improved their lives?
tax cuts
low unemployment
lowest black unemployment ever
stock market records
increases in median incomes
isis routed
no involvement in questionable
conflicts
increased funding for black colleges
school choice
creation of economic opportunity zones in urban areas
criminal justice reform
making america energy independent
peace progress in the middle east
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01-15-2021, 08:47 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
more like a pinch from a girl.
if snapshot polls are meaningless, what’s your take on a presidential
impeachment vote in the house, done in a couple of hours? you’re ok with snap impeachment it seems. were there any hearings, any testimony, any interviews with those who were arrested?
forget the poll ( which is what you do to poll you don’t like). look at this list ( a selective list of his good accomplishments, it’s not everything you need to know about the last 4 years), and tell me why people wouldn’t conclude these things improved their lives?
tax cuts
low unemployment
lowest black unemployment ever
stock market records
increases in median incomes
isis routed
no involvement in questionable
conflicts
increased funding for black colleges
school choice
creation of economic opportunity zones in urban areas
criminal justice reform
making america energy independent
peace progress in the middle east
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Boy when you get your needle stuck it’s epic, going to have fun for four years of whataboutism and lists oh boy.
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01-15-2021, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Boy when you get your needle stuck it’s epic, going to have fun for four years of whataboutism and lists oh boy.
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so like most liberals, when backed into a corner, instead of admitting the possibility that i have a point, you lob baseless insults.
GS, i’m not rooting against biden. 4 years from now, i hope i’m saying he did more to improve my life, than Trump. I’m not expecting it, but i hope it.
In the meantime, he’s inadvertently helping me. This summer, when i was convinced biden was going to win, i tried to figure out how i could benefit from that. i figured a biden presidency would be good for china, and bad for us oil. so i dug deeper, and tried to figure out what that might mean, and i figured at some point, businesses that get a lot of help or revenue from china will do well, and businesses that benefit from an increase in the price of oil will do well. so i bought Tesla and Exxon Mobil. let’s say it hasn’t exactly been a disaster.
and i love how you dismiss so
much as whatsboutism. I’ll ask you again, is there no value in pointing out hypocrisy? how do you prove hypocrisy, without engaging in whatsboutism?
let’s see you not defend everything biden does for the next 4 years, by saying trump was worse. I’d like to see that.
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01-15-2021, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
so like most liberals, when backed into a corner, instead of admitting the possibility that i have a point, you lob baseless insults.
GS, i’m not rooting against biden. 4 years from now, i hope i’m saying he did more to improve my life, than Trump. I’m not expecting it, but i hope it.
In the meantime, he’s inadvertently helping me. This summer, when i was convinced biden was going to win, i tried to figure out how i could benefit from that. i figured a biden presidency would be good for china, and bad for us oil. so i dug deeper, and tried to figure out what that might mean, and i figured at some point, businesses that get a lot of help or revenue from china will do well, and businesses that benefit from an increase in the price of oil will do well. so i bought Tesla and Exxon Mobil. let’s say it hasn’t exactly been a disaster.
and i love how you dismiss so
much as whatsboutism. I’ll ask you again, is there no value in pointing out hypocrisy? how do you prove hypocrisy, without engaging in whatsboutism?
let’s see you not defend everything biden does for the next 4 years, by saying trump was worse. I’d like to see that.
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Look into Lucid
My 16 year old has decided to invest heavily
He was right on Bitcoin and Tesla
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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01-15-2021, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Boy when you get your needle stuck it’s epic, going to have fun for four years of whataboutism and lists oh boy.
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oh, and as always, you completely dodged my question like the coward you are, and lobbed baseless insults instead.
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01-15-2021, 09:34 AM
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"If your only -- or even simply your first -- point in defense of Trump is that Democrats are hypocrites or have double standards, you are in effect arguing that the left dictates your standards.
If you say Trump can't or shouldn't be held to account because liberals didn't hold their own side accountable for (what you allege) was similar incitement or behavior, what you're really saying is you care less about your own standards than the hypocrisy of the left.
I have no problem complaining about the hypocrisy of the left. But even if the facts were exactly as you allege, I still oppose incitement and unconstitutional behavior. The left's shifting standards shouldn't change conservatism's standards.
If my kid shoplifts, she'll be punished. If she complains her friend's parents don't care about shoplifting so it's unfair for me to punish her, I'll say "I don't care what they do" (even though I do care and I'll make a stink later). None of that changes what's right.
I'm not an expert on Christianity. But my understanding is that if you sin and are called to account for it, replying "Yeah, but look at what the Muslims do" is not a defense. Again, no expert so I'm open to correction.
But that's my point. Vast swaths of what passes for serious conservatism and analysis boils down to whining that the left is trying to hold the right accountable to the right's own standards -- and that that's somehow unfair.
Just because the left is outraged that the president lied about the election being stolen so much that a mob stormed the Capitol and killed people on the president's behalf, doesn't mean conservatives SHOULDN'T BE OUTRAGED BY IT FFS.
And just because you think their outrage is hypocritical, inconsistent, partisan, or set to the wrong tune for all I care, that shouldn't lessen your anger or outrage one iota.
In fact, you should be angrier b/c this wannabe celebrity despot implicitly & explicitly claims to be acting & speaking for you. You should be screaming, "This isn't who we are" or "Not my name you staggering jackwad." Not bleating about how some Democrat is a hypocrite.
Conservatism claims to believe in serious notions of right & wrong. We (claim to) champion moral clarity. If your first response to every misdeed of your side is to criticize the other side for condemning it. That's not principled conservatism, it's hackery.
Rant over"
Guess who
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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01-15-2021, 03:40 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
oh, and as always, you completely dodged my question like the coward you are, and lobbed baseless insults instead.
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Didn’t dodge every “point” or perceived benefit has been debated and everyone on this board has put in their two cents. Pay attention over the long haul, or look into this memory enhancement drugs.
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01-15-2021, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
more like a pinch from a girl.
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Definitely not a misogynist
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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01-15-2021, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Definitely not a misogynist
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you should report him.... 
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01-15-2021, 10:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scottw
you should report him.... 
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Defiantly a troll
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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01-15-2021, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Traitors
Wow thanks captain obvious for pointing out something I was aware I posted, but thanks for reinforcing my jab at Jim.
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it's not clear that you were..
perhaps you should get one of those cognitive tests...you don't even remember writing on those golf balls and hitting them out on to the course...
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