Illegals Flooding Border Under Biden Is ‘Obama 2.0’

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

It’s just the same old story that now instead of a handout, has a prime time slot.

???

When Carlson worries about immigrants from the third world, he is talking about Hispanic, Asian and Black people who he worries will outnumber “current” voters. Current voters, in this formulation, are the white people who make up the majority of the American electorate.

Actually, even though you seem to think you know what worries him, he has acknowledged that current voters are comprised of all races, and that one of the current races, Black, is disproportionately harmed by mass immigration of low skilled, cheap labor immigrants.

And over 40% of white voters voted Democrat. Race hustlers have accused various Blacks of being white supremacists, and various Jews of being Nazis. None of the races is an electoral monolith. There is an uptick in avowed Black Conservatives. There is a significant minority of Latino Republicans.

This notion of racial supremacy seems to be only attributed by leftists to whites. Even if actual white supremacists are a very small portion of the white population, if someone agrees with some white supremacist ideas, he is considered to be a white supremacist. By that metric, it would seem that all races are supremacist. Most blacks agree with some of the things that are spouted by Black nationalists. Asians and blacks prefer and agree with a superiority of their own cultures.

And in those countries ruled by Asians and Blacks who are a majority, their racial self superiority outdoes any such in White majority countries. In actuality, whites worldwide have been the least racist as a whole compared to Blacks and Asians. But, because only so-called white racism is recognized by the left as a critical problem here, it becomes convenient for leftists to point to this supposed racism as the motivation for all thoughts and actions by whites re non-whites which run counter to their political goals and objectives.

Carlson has very often had on his shows Black, Latino, and Asian guests whom he praised, agreed with, and certainly did not "worry" about their kind becoming a majority. Like most "Conservatives," Tucker seems to be worried about how they will vote, not about the color of their skin.

Second, and revealingly, he is admitting that Republicans do not and will not appeal to new citizens who are immigrants.

Of course, it is obvious, not some revelation, illegals who depend on government turning a blind eye to, as well as actually abetting, their mass migration into the U.S., and who promise to eventually give them citizen status with the host of goodies such as health care, welfare, and education, and who are receptive to also accepting the chain migration of the whole train of their relatives, it is obvious which party they would vote for.

But although white replacement theory is a conspiracy theory, the fact that the percentage of voters who are white in America is shrinking as a percentage of all voters is not. Neither is the fact that white supremacists are panicked about this.

White supremacists may be panicked. I suppose they have always panicked. Anyone who wishes to maintain some form of supremacy will always have an underlying worry that they could lose it. That is the nature of being top dog. No doubt the Progressives get panicked about white supremacists. They're certainly ginning up a big to-do about the danger of white supremacy.

I cannot speak for Carlson about what worries him. I do not have this telepathic power you seem to think you have of what he is thinking. I can only go by his words. His words speak of political replacement, not race replacement.

I can speak for myself. I fear no immigrant who seriously wishes to abandon whatever hell-hole form of government he wishes to escape in order come here and uphold our constitutionally limited form of government. And does so in the way our laws require, not just bogard his way in. But, like Tucker, I also worry about political replacement. I am concerned that the Progressives are replacing our constitutionally limited form of government with an unlimited administrative state. Many things have been done politically toward that end. Abandoning the requirement to observe our laws and statutes on how to enter this country, as no other country has done, is another in a long train of ways. Which country in North, Central, and South America views immigration this way? Which European, Asian, African or Middle Eastern country does? And it is especially insidious that doing so is in order to gain political power.

[Pete F.]

By the way, it's Republicans not Democrats who are seeking to alter the current electorate. Republicans are trying to restrict voting and who are defending gerrymandering. Democrats want to let people vote and are willing to give up gerrymandering in the states they control.

It's Republicans who want to "replace" the current American electorate with a smaller, whiter electorate.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

By the way, it's Republicans not Democrats who are seeking to alter the current electorate. Republicans are trying to restrict voting and who are defending gerrymandering. Democrats want to let people vote and are willing to give up gerrymandering in the states they control.

It's Republicans who want to "replace" the current American electorate with a smaller, whiter electorate.

By the way, its Democrats who are seeking to alter the current electorate. Democrats are trying to make voting a farce and gerrymander as good as anybody. Democrats want anybody and everybody to vote anytime and anywhere they wish, and are willing to say they'll do or "give up" stuff. Like you, they are willing to just say all kinds of stuff.

It's Democrats who want to replace any portion of the American electorate that is not "progressive" enough or too stuck in the notion of any limitations on their ability to do whatever they want to us . . .

That was easy. Just say stuff.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by detbuch

By the way, its Democrats who are seeking to alter the current electorate. Democrats are trying to make voting a farce and gerrymander as good as anybody. Democrats want anybody and everybody to vote anytime and anywhere they wish, and are willing to say they'll do or "give up" stuff. Like you, they are willing to just say all kinds of stuff.

It's Democrats who want to replace any portion of the American electorate that is not "progressive" enough or too stuck in the notion of any limitations on their ability to do whatever they want to us . . .

That was easy. Just say stuff.

Except what you say is a lie. The Dems. don't do it as much as the Repubs. nor are they as good. They have never said they want "want anybody and everybody to vote anytime and anywhere they wish"

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Except what you say is a lie. The Dems. don't do it as much as the Repubs. nor are they as good. They have never said they want "want anybody and everybody to vote anytime and anywhere they wish"

I was just mimicking Pete's method. It's easy. Sort of an example of his notion of the laziest of lazy argument. Your doing the same thing here. Just say stuff as if its true because you say it.

[Pete F.]

I could, like some, use the method of repeating 150 year old racist tropes in new language and gaslighting that now they are justified and some people should not be able to vote.

In practice, efforts to manipulate electoral participation - and specifically to suppress Black voters - have been and continue to be a prominent theme in the history of American elections.

Enslaved people could not vote. After the 1860s Civil War, newly freed African Americans seized the right to vote, sending several men to represent Southern states in Congress.

But as early as the 1870s, white Americans systematically disenfranchised Black voters (and also many poor whites) through a variety of regulations — including property and education clauses. The notorious “grandfather clause” decreed men could vote only if their grandfather was also eligible to vote in the years before 1867. Violence at the ballot box kept African American men, and African American women after 1920, away for decades.

When Trump incited his followers to sign up as “election poll watchers”, he evokes this very history, which dominated Southern politics until the civil rights movement.

Since the movement, African American voters have selected the Democratic presidential candidate in huge majorities. As a result, new forms of suppression have emerged to stop them.

Since 2010, 25 states have introduced measures to make it harder to vote. For example, they require voters to register prior to the election and/or provide photo ID at the point of voting.

In 11 states, people convicted of felonies are banned from voting long after custodial sentences end or fines have been paid – and sometimes for life. These laws have seen 6 million adults lose the right to vote.

These methods all affect poorer and less well-educated Americans more than affluent Americans. Non-white Americans, especially African American, Native American and to a lesser extent Latino voters, have been most affected.

In Florida, where this disenfranchisement affected more than 20% of African Americans, voters overturned the ban. Republican state legislators soon found a way to ensure 775,000 people still cannot vote by deeming ineligible anyone with outstanding court fees.

In neighbouring Georgia, Republican Secretary of State Brian Kemp narrowly edged out popular Democratic challenger Stacey Abrams – who is African American – in the 2018 election for governor. His success came by ruthlessly disqualifying 53,000 voters – 70% of them African American and only 20% white – with dubious “signature matching” requirements.