electricians code question

[bloocrab]

Those ARC fault breakers suck too... dont' take much to trip em out

[ed morini]

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Considering what a GFIC outlet will cost you're probably better off doing this above option ay amazon. You can then run regular TR outlets for short money. Down side long trip to the panel.
Use to be a building commissioner, arc faults have been code for quite a awhile and not to be overlooked. Insurance companies always look for this incase of a claim. Cost is a lot less than the cost of noncompliance.
Not an electrician just a code guy.
Ed

[ed morini]

As an update, I have found that there are available AFCI/GFIC tamperproof outlets. They will provide downstream protection for outlets
connected to the load side of the outlet. Price seemed reasonable at around $30.00 and save long trips to the main panel

Ed

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by ed morini

As an update, I have found that there are available AFCI/GFIC tamperproof outlets. They will provide downstream protection for outlets
connected to the load side of the outlet. Price seemed reasonable at around $30.00 and save long trips to the main panel

Ed

Thanks for the Info ED seems under the new code I need Tamper proof outlets in Addition to Arc and GFIC on each circuit in the kitchen. for a total of 7 circuits at 60 bucks a pop plus labor .. 5 of the 7 are the stove the microwave and the Fridge the dishwasher and the Garbage disposal all need one .. Seems electrical code is a job creator for electricians.. who knew my house was so unsafe

[ed morini]

20 Amp 125-Volt Duplex Self-Test SmartlockPro Tamper Resistant AFCI/GFCI Dual Function Outlet, White

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-...049855#overlay

Here's an alternative ^^^

If your looking for a reason for all this "safety", its your friendly local
insurance conglomerate worried about losses.

All codes have under gone tremendous revisions. I am a staunch advocate of safety but have the seen the effort to totally eliminate the possibility of "error" certainly drive up costs and regrettably cause individuals to pursue efforts without permitting and inspection,
Going down this road is very dangerous, as it there is a loss, the insurance copy will find a way not to pay out.

"Hammurabi's Code was one of the earliest written codes of law in recorded history. Several of the laws pertained to the built environment: 229 If a builder builds a house for someone, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built falls in and kills its owner, then that builder shall be put to death."

At least the codes are not as draconian as the first building code

ED

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by ed morini

20 Amp 125-Volt Duplex Self-Test SmartlockPro Tamper Resistant AFCI/GFCI Dual Function Outlet, White

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-...049855#overlay

Here's an alternative ^^^

If your looking for a reason for all this "safety", its your friendly local
insurance conglomerate worried about losses.

All codes have under gone tremendous revisions. I am a staunch advocate of safety but have the seen the effort to totally eliminate the possibility of "error" certainly drive up costs and regrettably cause individuals to pursue efforts without permitting and inspection,
Going down this road is very dangerous, as it there is a loss, the insurance copy will find a way not to pay out.

"Hammurabi's Code was one of the earliest written codes of law in recorded history. Several of the laws pertained to the built environment: 229 If a builder builds a house for someone, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built falls in and kills its owner, then that builder shall be put to death."

At least the codes are not as draconian as the first building code

ED

I asked if those were acceptable I was told even with those I would need to do the breakers also .. thanks