"the beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name,"

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Detbuch is quite an odd proper name, isn’t it?

It's my proper forum name.

When Trump was not known, he lost popular vote to Hillary by 2% in 2016

When Trump was known, he lost to Biden by 4% in 2020. That was BEFORE January 6th.

If Trump runs again in 2024, he will lose by FAR MORE than 4%. It will be Mondale level loss.

So what? What's that to do with a proper name? Typical deke from subject when you've got nothing other than labeling and conjecturing.

Keep believing January 6th was just tourists.

Who said that it was? Not me. The proper name would be 10's of thousands of peaceful Trump protesters and ralliers with a comparativey small number of rioters.

“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
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Calling J6 an insurrection is rejecting the obvious display of many thousands of peaceful protesters and ralliers disrupted by a few hundred disparate unorganized rioters that did not have the power to do much beyond the stupid mess, comparatively less destructive and much shorter than other recent riots in the U.S. which were properly called riots, not insurrections, though the one in Seattle was far more like an insurrection than J6.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Calling J6 an insurrection is rejecting the obvious display of many thousands of peaceful protesters and ralliers disrupted by a few hundred disparate unorganized rioters that did not have the power to do much beyond the stupid mess, comparatively less destructive and much shorter than other recent riots in the U.S. which were properly called riots, not insurrections, though the one in Seattle was far more like an insurrection than J6.

Perhaps given your choice of genocide as the ultimate solution you should have chosen a more appropriate forum name, several come to mind.

No occupation of the seat of government occurred in the USA with the exception of armed protesters occupying the Michigan State House and the domestic terrorists attacking Congress.

Oddly enough the Proud Boys came out of their basements yesterday and had a great time committing felonies in Portland.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

No occupation of the seat of government occurred in the USA with the exception of armed protesters occupying the Michigan State House and the domestic terrorists attacking Congress.


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Dearest History Major,

“Thousands of protesters rushed to the … Capitol Wednesday night, forcing their way through doors, crawling through windows and jamming corridors.” That is how one newspaper described the storming of the Capitol — not the one in Washington last week, but the state Capitol in Madison, Wis., a decade ago.

Back then, thousands of pro-union activists — many bused in from out of state — rampaged through the historic building in an effort to stop a vote on collective bargaining reform legislation. So, when I saw the images of a pro-Trump mob rampaging through the U.S. Capitol last week, my first thought was: What is Scott Walker thinking right now?

“It’s like I’m having PTSD from a decade ago,” the former Republican governor of Wisconsin texted me.

Most conservatives have condemned the right-wing mob that assaulted the U.S. Capitol. But 10 years ago, Democrats embraced the left-wing mob that occupied the state Capitol in Madison. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) praised the occupiers for an “impressive show of democracy in action” and tweeted as they assaulted the Capitol that she continued “to stand in solidarity” with the union activists.

Kindest Regards, History

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

No occupation of the seat of government occurred in the USA with the exception of armed protesters occupying the Michigan State House and the domestic terrorists attacking Congress.
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During various riots and protests there were occupations of portions of American cities declared as self governing autonomous zones. Such as on June 8 The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone in Seattle. And on June 18 the Patrick Kimmons Autonomous Zone in Portland. And on June 22 the Black House Autonomous Zone in Washington D.C.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

During various riots and protests there were occupations of portions of American cities declared as self governing autonomous zones. Such as on June 8 The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone in Seattle. And on June 18 the Patrick Kimmons Autonomous Zone in Portland. And on June 22 the Black House Autonomous Zone in Washington D.C.

You are forgetting all the sovereign citizens, Timothy McVeigh and the people on that ranch out west, isn’t he running for Congress now?
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