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08-29-2021, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Your label, not mine. It seems to be the solution of choice by Muslims in many places.
Do you have a solution?
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As it happens, the US wiped 3 Afghan villages off the face of the earth in 2010. They were called Tarek Kolache, Khosrow Sofia and Lower Babur. These are the details of a 20-year war that don’t get remembered, let alone discussed. This barbarism was not hypothetical. It was fact.
People will remember what we did and seek revenge.
Much like you
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08-29-2021, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
As it happens, the US wiped 3 Afghan villages off the face of the earth in 2010. They were called Tarek Kolache, Khosrow Sofia and Lower Babur. These are the details of a 20-year war that don’t get remembered, let alone discussed. This barbarism was not hypothetical. It was fact.
People will remember what we did and seek revenge.
Much like you
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So you have no solution. Throwing out inaccurate labels like genocide and revenge is not a solution.
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08-30-2021, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
So you have no solution. Throwing out inaccurate labels like genocide and revenge is not a solution.
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A peculiar pathology in modern conservatism: The idea that the US government is too incompetent to execute domestic policy well, but it has extraordinary control over outcomes in countries it invades.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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08-30-2021, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
So you have no solution. Throwing out inaccurate labels like genocide and revenge is not a solution.
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I am still waiting on a provided solution from all the republicans the MAGA universe and conservative talking heads .. who now are smarter than the Generals (where did I hear that before ... ) who Claim the withdrawal could have been done Better ! Anything could have been done better in any Country we had boots on the Ground ..
But Conservatives and frankly Some Dems Want Our involvement with these story book happy endings ... But they cut and run once the Troops start dying .. then magically they cant accept the risk and try assigning Blame .. And history has shown us this is the Republican playbook again and again
The Tongo Tongo ambush or the Niger ambush occurred on 4 October 2017, when armed militants from the Islamic State in the Greater Sahara attacked Nigerien and US soldiers outside the village of Tongo Tongo, Niger while they were returning to base after a stop in the village. 4 us SF died recorded on their own helmet cams they had no back up or Air on station .. no investigation no congressional hearings
Yet Four Americans died in the attack: Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, Information Officer Sean Smith, and two CIA operatives, Glen Doherty and Tyrone Woods, ...
And Republican exploit their Deaths for political Advantage because the know Hillarys running for office ..
And this tongo tongo incident was under Trump and republican control no outrage no blame no he's got blood on his Hands same with the 64 kia in Afghanistan during Trump's Term! funny how that works
Yet Conservatives and republicans are silent when Troops die on their POTUS watch because they sell it to their voters as American Strength and great sacrifice keeping Americans safe ! while waving the flag !
However When American service members die under a democratic POTUS these same people sell it to their Base as weak leadership or Appeasement and they fall in line waving more flags Acting outraged and claiming now America is less safe they Dems hate our troops .. its divide and outrage 24x7
Combat is ugly people die on both Sides and I have said it Before
Americans need to either Accept the risks or STFU . Because trying to have it both ways place our troops in greater danger than they understand. they are not a pugs or a yellow lab that everyone love to love.
they are trained to Bite
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08-30-2021, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Combat is ugly people die on both Sides and I have said it Before
Americans need to either Accept the risks or STFU .
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this is profound....
it's funny how the "question everything", everything is not "black and white" only shades of grey, there are "no absolutes", "resist resist", protest everything, occupy everything, mostly peacefully of course, don't tell ME what to do crowd... is now telling everyone to STFU and do what they are told....pretty amusing
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08-30-2021, 07:04 AM
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I wonder how many others here are sick to death of having every discussion, event, or news story being politicized. Last I checked, my views on the withdrawal were as an American, viewing and praying for American troops, all wearing American uniforms with the American flag.....
You might as well just put up your affiliation in your signature. Those of you who view and post from only one aisle, be it blue or red, are nothing more than one trick ponies who lack the capacity to view each item on its own merits and happily post bullet points from your favorite partisan sources. Use your head for your reasoning. Don't blindly follow political postures and attacks from either side. Last I checked, there has not been a political platform with all the right answers.
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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08-30-2021, 10:09 AM
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feel better?
remember...not long ago....when everybody was busting out that old phrase...."well....I may not agree with what you have to say...but I'll defend to the death your right to say it!"....
I didn't believe them then.....and.....
it's pretty much become the exact opposite in fact.....
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08-30-2021, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by scottw
this is profound....
it's funny how the "question everything", everything is not "black and white" only shades of grey, there are "no absolutes", "resist resist", protest everything, occupy everything, mostly peacefully of course, don't tell ME what to do crowd... is now telling everyone to STFU and do what they are told....pretty amusing
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No I am telling those Conservatives and the MAGA universe and republicans who love pounding the war Drum but they clearly change their tune when troops die .. for political hay. To Stfu and you can’t have it both ways
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08-31-2021, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
No I am telling those Conservatives and the MAGA universe and republicans who love pounding the war Drum but they clearly change their tune when troops die .. for political hay. To Stfu and you can’t have it both ways
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who loves pounding the war drum? I think you are confused..."MAGA universe" was all about getting us OUT of foreign conflicts...lot's of leftists criticizing this too as I've demonstrated but you just need someone to yell at  Trump isn't president anymore..the guy with balls and no marbles is at the helm now
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08-31-2021, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
who loves pounding the war drum? I think you are confused..."MAGA universe" was all about getting us OUT of foreign conflicts...lot's of leftists criticizing this too as I've demonstrated but you just need someone to yell at  Trump isn't president anymore..the guy with balls and no marbles is at the helm now
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Seem you don’t follow the MAGA universe
Trump: 'Bomb the hell out of' U.S. equipment left behind in Afghanistan
Look who beating his chest
What are all the Trump supporters going to say when they find out the bomber who killed our troops was 1 of the 5000 prisoners he Released?
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