Disaster

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

yes the afghan army said f it. but my point, which you ignored, is that biden knew this was happening back in july, but told the country everything was proceeding in a way that would allow the final withdrawal to take place as planned.

you either intentionally ignored that, or you can’t grasp it. there isn’t a third possibility.

i never denied the afghan army blew this.
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Biden knew really that the afghans wouldn't fight 1 day is that your suggestion? ? did all the other Governments and Aid groups did they also Know their on the ground ? that the afghan army wasn't going to last a Day ?

So why didn't everyone evacuate early ? seems they thought as we did the Afghans would at least put up a fight.. and they also needed to fly back in and get people out..

but lets get back to the Air lift how many people should have gotten out? seeing your racist party is all ready spewing crap about Afghans

Republican politicians and Fox News personalities are stoking fears about the U.S. taking in Afghans trying to flee the Taliban.
Rep. Matt Rosendale saying that there is no “excuse to flood our country with refugees from Afghanistan.

“Is the mass migration of Afghan men to America really a good idea? Good for your wife, your daughter?” said the Trump campaign adviser turned host.


Stephen Miller
@StephenM
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Aug 15
It is becoming increasingly clear that Biden & his radical deputies will use their catastrophic debacle in Afghanistan as a pretext for doing to America what Angela Merkel did to Germany & Europe.


Jim someone needs to pay attention to the big picture. if I recall you had the same issue with Trump

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Biden knew really that the afghans wouldn't fight 1 day is that your suggestion? ? did all the other Governments and Aid groups did they also Know their on the ground ? that the afghan army wasn't going to last a Day ?

So why didn't everyone evacuate early ? seems they thought as we did the Afghans would at least put up a fight.. and they also needed to fly back in and get people out..

but lets get back to the Air lift how many people should have gotten out? seeing your racist party is all ready spewing crap about Afghans

Republican politicians and Fox News personalities are stoking fears about the U.S. taking in Afghans trying to flee the Taliban.
Rep. Matt Rosendale saying that there is no “excuse to flood our country with refugees from Afghanistan.

“Is the mass migration of Afghan men to America really a good idea? Good for your wife, your daughter?” said the Trump campaign adviser turned host.


Stephen Miller
@StephenM
·
Aug 15
It is becoming increasingly clear that Biden & his radical deputies will use their catastrophic debacle in Afghanistan as a pretext for doing to America what Angela Merkel did to Germany & Europe.


Jim someone needs to pay attention to the big picture. if I recall you had the same issue with Trump

my suggestion is that, according to the transcript of the call, Biden knew in July that things weren’t going well. yet he told america that all
was swell, and obviously he had no plan to deal with things deteriorating.

And got stripers said multiple
times, that any idiot could have foreseen that it would have turned into a mess. so if any idiot should have foreseen it, maybe biden could have thought about that scenario.

you’re saying there was no way to predict the mess. got stripers said any idiot should have seen it coming. if GS is right, Biden failed to plan for what he should have seen coming.

Again, i’m not speculating, i’m going by the transcript. i’m sorry if the physical evidence supports that biden knew 5 weeks ago that it wasn’t good, i’m sorry if that upsets you. But whether you happen to like it or not, Biden said in july it wasn’t going well.

Your moronic speculation that republicans don’t actually care about people
left behind, tells us how indefensible you know your position is.

Who are the private groups trying to get those people out right now? Lots of evangelical christians like glen beck, who i think is kooky, but he’s over there trying to get people
out. I doubt george soros is doing the same. so who really cares, and who doesn’t?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

my suggestion is that, according to MY INTERPERATION OF the transcript of the call, Biden knew in July that things weren’t going well. yet he told america that all
was swell, and obviously he had no plan to deal with things deteriorating.

And got stripers said multiple
times, that any idiot could have foreseen that it would have turned into a mess. so if any idiot should have foreseen it, maybe biden could have thought about that scenario. Came together pretty fast for nobody having thought they would eventually have to do a NEO, didn't it?

you’re saying there was no way to predict the mess. got stripers said any idiot should have seen it coming. if GS is right, Biden failed to plan for what he should have seen coming.

Again, i’m not speculating, i’m going by MY INTERPERATION OF the transcript. i’m sorry if the physical evidence supports that biden knew 5 weeks ago that it wasn’t good, i’m sorry if that upsets you. But whether you happen to like it or not, Biden said in july it wasn’t going well.

Your moronic speculation that republicans don’t actually care about people
left behind, tells us how indefensible you know your position is.
Steven Miller: "Resettling [Afghans] in America is not about solving a humanitarian crisis; it’s about accomplishing an ideological objective to change America,”

Who are the private groups trying to get those people out right now? Lots of evangelical christians like glen beck, who i think is kooky, but he’s over there trying to get people (Christians only need apply)
out. And Eric Prince who had seats at $6500, but what's money? I doubt george soros is doing the same. so who really cares, and who doesn’t?
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Ah, George Soros aka the bogeyman for the right, the evangelicals are bringing people to Mexico, wonder why that is?

Here's the story of the relentless Republican effort (led by President Trump) to undermine and destroy the programs that help bring Afghan refugees to the U.S.

Over the last decade, Republicans have pushed to intentionally create a massive backlog in the Special Immigrant Visa (SIV) program - the one we use to bring Afghan partners to America, by putting onerous conditions on the applications.

In 2016, Obama asked to increase the cap for the SIV program. Senate Republicans objected.

Then, the Trump Admin started slowing down SIV processing.

When Biden took over, there were 10,000 unfilled visas, despite 17,000 applications in the pipeline.

This dovetailed with the assault by Trump and Republicans to destroy other refugee programs that bring Afghans to the U.S..

Obama admitted over 2,700 Afghan refugees.

Trump admitted 400, because he had dismantled the refugee system. Biden had to rebuild it.

And today Trumplicans are making it clear they will oppose bringing more Afghan refugees to the U.S..

Steven Miller: "Resettling [Afghans] in America is not about solving a humanitarian crisis; it’s about accomplishing an ideological objective to change America,”

Tucker Carlson says the Biden administration is allowing Afghan refugees to enter the US in order "to change our country. They'll never lose another election. That's the point, as you know."

[scottw]

hmmm....

President Biden’s approval rating has cratered to 36 percent among independents after his disastrous handling of the withdrawal from Afghanistan, according to a new NPR/PBS/Marist poll.

how can this happen with the lame stream media constantly reminding the electorate that biden is a fabulous president who only makes good decisions for them ??????

are these independents actually watching Faux news and being brainwashed into thinking like $ucker carlson ?????

we need to send paid volunteers door to door to "speak" to these people and make them understand that their thinkers aren't thinking correctly!!!!!!

[scottw]

this is pretty funny....

WASHINGTON Apr 4, 2007 An apparently botched message during a widely discouraged visit by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to Syria this week has U.S. officials criticizing rogue efforts at diplomacy among U.S. politicians.

State Department officials said Thursday they made it quite clear they did not want Pelosi to visit Syria, a nation that is listed as a state sponsor of terror and is home to terror group Hezbollah, which started a low-grade war with Israel last summer.

Even The Washington Post editorialized in Thursday editions that “Ms. Pelosi's attempt to establish a shadow presidency is not only counterproductive, it is foolish.”



‘Not a good idea’: Pelosi condemns bipartisan Afghanistan trip
August 25, 2021

Pelosi on Wednesday referred to it as a “freelance” trip and said she issued a written statement shortly after to send a message to lawmakers not to follow their actions.

Pelosi said congressional trips to Kabul would distract from the State Department

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by scottw

hmmm....

President Biden’s approval rating has cratered to 36 percent among independents after his disastrous handling of the withdrawal from Afghanistan, according to a new NPR/PBS/Marist poll.

how can this happen with the lame stream media constantly reminding the electorate that biden is a fabulous president who only makes good decisions for them ??????

are these independents actually watching Faux news and being brainwashed into thinking like $ucker carlson ?????

we need to send paid volunteers door to door to "speak" to these people and make them understand that their thinkers aren't thinking correctly!!!!!!

OMG random poll has his numbers dropping a few points below Trumps highest throughout his term, thanks some earth shattering news.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

OMG random poll has his numbers dropping a few points below Trumps highest throughout his term, thanks some earth shattering news.

yup...definitely don't let it ruin your weekend

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

hmmm....

President Biden’s approval rating has cratered to 36 percent among independents after his disastrous handling of the withdrawal from Afghanistan, according to a new NPR/PBS/Marist poll.

how can this happen with the lame stream media constantly reminding the electorate that biden is a fabulous president who only makes good decisions for them ??????

are these independents actually watching Faux news and being brainwashed into thinking like $ucker carlson ?????

we need to send paid volunteers door to door to "speak" to these people and make them understand that their thinkers aren't thinking correctly!!!!!!

A blip on the radar for most but popcorn to you

Trump’s average approval rating across his term, 41.1%

And yet Biden's approval rating has fallen to a new low of 43 per cent

I am not to worried about independent voters . I don’t see this pushing them towards Trump supported candidates… their a more pragmatic bunch then the avg Republican voter
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Trump’s average approval rating across his term, 41.1%


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trump was beaten mercilessly, daily by the media & friends....biden gets a tongue bath.....when you consider that....looks like a great approval rating for trump...not so good for weekend-at-biden's

you are full of whataboutisms...thought we banned those?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

trump was beaten mercilessly, daily by the media & friends....biden gets a tongue bath.....when you consider that....looks like a great approval rating for trump...not so good for weekend-at-biden's

you are full of whataboutisms...thought we banned those?

Wow, it’s always someone else’s fault, couldn’t be Tweety’s

Democrats have nothing comparable to the CNP, Leadership Institute, TPUSA, ALEC, Federalist Society and College Republicans. They’re all propaganda machines consistently churning out your thoughts for you, cited as truths by right wing media
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

trump was beaten mercilessly, daily by the media & friends....biden gets a tongue bath.....when you consider that....looks like a great approval rating for trump...not so good for weekend-at-biden's

you are full of whataboutisms...thought we banned those?

do you think Biden runs in 2024?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

trump was beaten mercilessly, daily by the media & friends....biden gets a tongue bath.....when you consider that....looks like a great approval rating for trump...not so good for weekend-at-biden's

you are full of whataboutisms...thought we banned those?

funny you post trump was beaten mercilessly as your counterpoint then complain about whataboutisms .. ?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

A blip on the radar for most but popcorn to you

Trump’s average approval rating across his term, 41.1%

And yet Biden's approval rating has fallen to a new low of 43 per cent

I am not to worried about independent voters . their a more pragmatic bunch then the avg Republican voter
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If you think independents are practical, then you would be worried if you were smart. Those practical voters will be choosing between a spend-crazy, abortion-crazy, green new deal-crazy,defund-the-police, open borders, "no such thing as biological gender" liberal (no idea who it will be, I don't think Biden runs again, and they can't run Harris who polled at 1% when she ran)...

against Ron Desantis (probably), who kept his state's businesses open, kept his kids in school, and yet has death rates nowhere near what we see in blue states like NY, his state might have the best state economy in the country, people and businesses can't move there fast enough, his state isn't seeing a surbe in violent crime that we see in blue states. And no state income tax. Yes, God forbid we have more of that...

What do you expect a practical voter will base his vote on?

I'm curious to see how the media will align against Desantis. Some are calling him "governor death sentence" (ha ha that's a good one), despite the fact that his death rates are lower than NY, which was led by the guy that EVERYONE in the media said was "the gold standard" of leadership.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If you think independents are practical, then you would be worried if you were smart. Those practical voters will be choosing between a spend-crazy, abortion-crazy, green new deal-crazy,defund-the-police, open borders, "no such thing as biological gender" liberal (no idea who it will be, I don't think Biden runs again, and they can't run Harris who polled at 1% when she ran)...

against Ron Desantis (probably), who kept his state's businesses open, kept his kids in school, and yet has death rates nowhere near what we see in blue states like NY, his state might have the best state economy in the country, people and businesses can't move there fast enough, his state isn't seeing a surbe in violent crime that we see in blue states. And no state income tax. Yes, God forbid we have more of that...

What do you expect a practical voter will base his vote on?

I'm curious to see how the media will align against Desantis. Some are calling him "governor death sentence" (ha ha that's a good one), despite the fact that his death rates are lower than NY, which was led by the guy that EVERYONE in the media said was "the gold standard" of leadership.

You’re watching too much Fox
Florida 3.3 M dead 15324 per 100K
NY 2.3M dead 11749 per 100K
Is the rest of what you get fed as far off as that, responsible voters would look.
Cuomo is gone, the Dems don’t put their sexual predators on a pedestal and worship golden statues of them.
The rest of your spoon fed propaganda is the weak attempt of the far right to paint Biden as other than a centrist.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If you think independents are practical, then you would be worried if you were smart. Those practical voters will be choosing between a spend-crazy, abortion-crazy, green new deal-crazy,defund-the-police, open borders, "no such thing as biological gender" liberal (no idea who it will be, I don't think Biden runs again, and they can't run Harris who polled at 1% when she ran)...

against Ron Desantis (probably), who kept his state's businesses open, kept his kids in school, and yet has death rates nowhere near what we see in blue states like NY, his state might have the best state economy in the country, people and businesses can't move there fast enough, his state isn't seeing a surbe in violent crime that we see in blue states. And no state income tax. Yes, God forbid we have more of that...

What do you expect a practical voter will base his vote on?

I'm curious to see how the media will align against Desantis. Some are calling him "governor death sentence" (ha ha that's a good one), despite the fact that his death rates are lower than NY, which was led by the guy that EVERYONE in the media said was "the gold standard" of leadership.

Ron Desantis started way to early and it blowing up in his face he has done nothing to pull independants towards him he Has done just the opposite ..



Jim independents dont buy your nonsense of spend-crazy, abortion-crazy, green new deal-crazy,defund-the-police, open borders, "no such thing as biological gender"

Most independents are pragmatic nothing you wrote scares them their not gullible and already knew all this when they Voted for Biden ! and not trump or did you miss that?