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[wdmso]

This was posted on Parler The @TeamTrumpNews account, posted on the Parler social network, is written as though coming from the president himself. It said: “I have invoked the Insurrection Act of 1807, to address the treasonous rebellion conducted by Democrat & Republican lawmakers, CCP agents, the FBI, DOJ, CIA & others to undermine, corrode and dismantle the United States of America and its constitution. These entities pose a direct threat to national security. I will remain president indefinitely until all domestic enemies are arrested.”

MAGA figures like Sidney Powell and Lin Wood, two prominent pro-Trump attorneys leading efforts to overturn the 2020 election, and even one North Carolina state lawmaker. Others like Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser who was recently pardoned for lying to the FBI, have made adjacent calls for Trump to impose martial law. The ideas have circulated in pro-Trump outlets and were being discussed over the weekend among the thousands of MAGA protesters who descended on state capitols and the Supreme Court to falsely claim Trump had won the election.

Michael Flynn suggested at a QAnon-affiliated event that a coup should happen in the U.S.

so a crowd gathered at the request of the POTUS a who refused to admit he lost the election lied about the reasons he lost , with bear gas poles rods stun guns zip ties pipes but the right suggest they we’re unarmed and had no plan ?

But Antifa shows up with Trash can lids umbrellas and fireworks dressed in black and BLM protest have missed spelled signs but are black and the Right call them armed and dangerous ? Ron Johnson says he might have been concerned for safety had Capitol rioters been BLM and Antifa

You can’t make this stuff up.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

This was posted on Parler The @TeamTrumpNews account, posted on the Parler social network, is written as though coming from the president himself. It said: “I have invoked the Insurrection Act of 1807, to address the treasonous rebellion conducted by Democrat & Republican lawmakers, CCP agents, the FBI, DOJ, CIA & others to undermine, corrode and dismantle the United States of America and its constitution. These entities pose a direct threat to national security. I will remain president indefinitely until all domestic enemies are arrested.”

MAGA figures like Sidney Powell and Lin Wood, two prominent pro-Trump attorneys leading efforts to overturn the 2020 election, and even one North Carolina state lawmaker. Others like Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser who was recently pardoned for lying to the FBI, have made adjacent calls for Trump to impose martial law. The ideas have circulated in pro-Trump outlets and were being discussed over the weekend among the thousands of MAGA protesters who descended on state capitols and the Supreme Court to falsely claim Trump had won the election.

Michael Flynn suggested at a QAnon-affiliated event that a coup should happen in the U.S.

so a crowd gathered at the request of the POTUS a who refused to admit he lost the election lied about the reasons he lost , with bear gas poles rods stun guns zip ties pipes but the right suggest they we’re unarmed and had no plan ?

But Antifa shows up with Trash can lids umbrellas and fireworks dressed in black and BLM protest have missed spelled signs but are black and the Right call them armed and dangerous ? Ron Johnson says he might have been concerned for safety had Capitol rioters been BLM and Antifa

You can’t make this stuff up.
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You guys go on, and on, and on...about how crazy it is that people deny they had a plan...but you never utter a syllable about what the plan was. Never one syllable.

"BLM protest have missed spelled signs"

That's it? Just mis-spelled signs? BLM protests never involved violence, looting, murder, arson, property damage...just mis-spelled signs.

If you want to be taken just a little seriously, you have to be a little more honest than that.

David Dorn was a 77 year-old, black, retired police captain who was murdered during BLM protests in ST Louis.

Here's an article from those right-wing nuts at CNN. In this one night of one protest, the Trumplicans at CNN say that 55 businesses were robbed and had property damage. They did all that, just by waving mis-spelled signs?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/us/st...orn/index.html

Then there's the famous CNN report of "mostly peaceful" protests while fires raged in the video...did they start those fires just by gently waving their signs?

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5...deo-of-burning.

Heres the BLM protesters who burned a Wendys to the ground (not that Wendys did anything to them, of course...) The article doesn't say how they did that with nothing but mis-spelled signs.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1081126...ters-arrested/

It's just not possible to talk to you guys.

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You guys go on, and on, and on...about how crazy it is that people deny they had a plan...but you never utter a syllable about what the plan was. Never one syllable.

The plan was to interrupt the certification in congress and continue to push the state lawsuits to throw the election results into jeopardy. It never really had a chance of working but you can't say they didn't try like hell. The message to the insurrectionists was simple, stop the steal.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

The plan was to interrupt the certification in congress and continue to push the state lawsuits to throw the election results into jeopardy. It never really had a chance of working but you can't say they didn't try like hell. The message to the insurrectionists was simple, stop the steal.

and the evidence that this group of dummies had previously formulated that plan, is…???

Was the guy in the Chewbacca hat the leader?

Spence, remember a few years ago i. Wisconsin, Gov scott walker was about to sign union-busting legislation, and the lefties stormed the state capital? Were they insurrectionists? Or is there some logic by which it’s only a capital offense when conservatives do it?

Or The democrats in the TX state legislature who fled the state soecifically to hijack the democratic process that the voters freely chose, how do you describe them? you’d compliment them.

your aversion to those who interfere with the democratic process ( fair to say the Jan 6 rioters were attempting that) is quite selective. Which means it’s fake.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT;1213791

Spence, remember a few years ago i. Wisconsin, Gov scott walker was about to sign union-busting legislation, and the lefties stormed the state capital? Were they insurrectionists? Or is there some logic by which it’s only a capital offense when conservatives do it?

Or The democrats in the TX state legislature who fled the state soecifically to hijack the democratic process that the voters freely chose, how do you describe them? you’d compliment them.


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Some are comparing the U.S. Capitol riot to Wisconsin's Act 10 protests in 2011. Here are the key differences.

Wisconsin's Act 10 protests were overwhelmingly peaceful.

One top Republican official at the time noted there was no "malicious damage" to the statehouse and said most of the costs linked to the weeks-long protests were due to law enforcement overtime bills.

Thousands of people crowded inside the building every day, hanging posters on the walls and camping out in the rotunda and hallways.

Jan 6th A 70-year-old Alabama man had 11 Molotov cocktail devices "ready to go" in his truck when he was arrested during the breach and riot at the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, the Montgomery Advertiser reported.


Jim your false equivalence just don’t stand up to a single google search but conservatives pushed that narrative from day one

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...ge/6584619002/
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and the evidence that this group of dummies had previously formulated that plan, is…???

It was the Trump cabal's plan obviously. The insurrectionists were just following Trump's lead.

Spence, remember a few years ago i. Wisconsin, Gov scott walker was about to sign union-busting legislation, and the lefties stormed the state capital? Were they insurrectionists? Or is there some logic by which it’s only a capital offense when conservatives do it?

I remember that being a huge protest event but I don't recall any violence.

Or The democrats in the TX state legislature who fled the state soecifically to hijack the democratic process that the voters freely chose, how do you describe them? you’d compliment them.

Political gamesmanship.

your aversion to those who interfere with the democratic process ( fair to say the Jan 6 rioters were attempting that) is quite selective. Which means it’s fake.
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But your addiction to false equivalences is very real.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It was the Trump cabal's plan obviously. The insurrectionists were just following Trump's lead.


I remember that being a huge protest event but I don't recall any violence.


Political gamesmanship.


But your addiction to false equivalences is very real.

so i guess that message was encoded in trump’s words, to be peaceful and patriotic.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It was the Trump cabal's plan obviously. The insurrectionists were just following Trump's lead.


I remember that being a huge protest event but I don't recall any violence.


Political gamesmanship.


But your addiction to false equivalences is very real.

do you recall any violence last summer at BLM protests? trying to burn down a police station? is that an act of terrorism?
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

do you recall any violence last summer at BLM protests? trying to burn down a police station? is that an act of terrorism?
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I remember an incident where a few protesters lit some stuff in a barrel on fire in front of a police station. It's arson and illegal, no issue prosecuting them but it's not terrorism.

BLM violence came in many forms, overly aggressive police, white nationalists trying to clash, anarchists, some protesters certainly. I've been in two "riots" in my life and I can say when you have that many people milling about strange shyt happens. Was tear gassed both times

Still, nothing like Jan 6.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by spence

The plan was to interrupt the certification in congress and continue to push the state lawsuits to throw the election results into jeopardy. It never really had a chance of working but you can't say they didn't try like hell. The message to the insurrectionists was simple, stop the steal.

Captain obvious isn’t Jim, use bigger font and maybe pictures of pretty colors to get him focused.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You guys go on, and on, and on...about how crazy it is that people deny they had a plan...but you never utter a syllable about what the plan was. Never one syllable.

"BLM protest have missed spelled signs"

That's it? Just mis-spelled signs? BLM protests never involved violence, looting, murder, arson, property damage...just mis-spelled signs.

If you want to be taken just a little seriously, you have to be a little more honest than that.

David Dorn was a 77 year-old, black, retired police captain who was murdered during BLM protests in ST Louis.

Here's an article from those right-wing nuts at CNN. In this one night of one protest, the Trumplicans at CNN say that 55 businesses were robbed and had property damage. They did all that, just by waving mis-spelled signs?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/us/st...orn/index.html

Then there's the famous CNN report of "mostly peaceful" protests while fires raged in the video...did they start those fires just by gently waving their signs?

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5...deo-of-burning.

Heres the BLM protesters who burned a Wendys to the ground (not that Wendys did anything to them, of course...) The article doesn't say how they did that with nothing but mis-spelled signs.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/1081126...ters-arrested/

It's just not possible to talk to you guys.

When the Department of Homeland Security released its Homeland Threat Assessment earlier this month, it emphasized that self-proclaimed white supremacist groups are the most dangerous threat to U.S. security. But the report misleadingly added that there had been “over 100 days of violence and destruction in our cities,” referring to the anti-racism uprisings of this past summer.

In fact, the Black Lives Matter uprisings were remarkably nonviolent. When there was violence, very often police or counterprotesters were reportedly directing it at the protesters.

Since 2017, we have been collecting data on political crowds in the United States, including the protests that surged during the summer. We have almost finished collecting data from May to June, having already documented 7,305 events in thousands of towns and cities in all 50 states and D.C., involving millions of attendees.

Because most of the missing data are from small towns and cities, we do not expect the overall proportions to change significantly once we complete the data collection.

We make two assumptions. First, when politicians and officials categorize the protests as violent, they are usually envisioning property destruction or interpersonal violence in which they infer that BLM protesters are attacking police, bystanders and property.

Second, using several measures to evaluate protest behavior offers a better assessment than the blanket term “violence.” For example, we disaggregate property destruction from interpersonal violence. We analyze separately the number of injuries or deaths among protesters and police. And we are thinking about how gathering even finer-grained data in the future could help further assign precise responsibility for violent acts.

Here is what we have found based on the 7,305 events we’ve collected. The overall levels of violence and property destruction were low, and most of the violence that did take place was, in fact, directed against the BLM protesters.

First, police made arrests in 5% of the protest events, with over 8,500 reported arrests (or possibly more). Police used tear gas or related chemical substances in 2.5% of these events.

Protesters or bystanders were reported injured in 1.6 percent of the protests. In total, at least three Black Lives Matter protesters and one other person were killed while protesting in Omaha, Austin and Kenosha, Wis. One anti-fascist protester killed a far-right group member during a confrontation in Portland, Ore.; law enforcement killed the alleged assailant several days later.

Police were reported injured in 1% of the protests. A law enforcement officer killed in California was allegedly shot by supporters of the far-right “boogaloo” movement, not anti-racism protesters.

The killings in the line of duty of other law enforcement officers during this period were not related to the protests.

Only 3.7% of the protests involved property damage or vandalism. Some portion of these involved neither police nor protesters, but people engaging in vandalism or looting alongside the protests.

In short, our data suggest that 96.3% of events involved no property damage or police injuries, and in 97.7% of events, no injuries were reported among participants, bystanders or police.

These figures should correct the narrative that the protests were overtaken by rioting and vandalism or violence.

Such claims are false. Incidents in which there was protester violence or property destruction should be regarded as exceptional – and not representative of the uprising as a whole.