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09-15-2021, 08:21 PM
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You’re assuming that all people in this country have access to health care, transportation and a polling place that is open outside the hours they are required to be at work or financially able to take time off work to go and vote.
How long did people in low income districts stand in line to vote and how does that compare to middle and upper class districts?
Careful, the data exists
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09-15-2021, 08:45 PM
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You’re assuming that all people in this country have access to health care, transportation and a polling place
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they do |
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09-16-2021, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
Careful, the data exists
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Facts and data are no concern of conservatives
But lies and conspiracy then you have their attention
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09-16-2021, 07:49 AM
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Facts and data are no concern of conservatives
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this is definitely true  |
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09-16-2021, 08:18 AM
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Quote:
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Facts and data are no concern of conservatives
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Originally Posted by scottw
this is definitely true |
A little of the typical troll method: creative editing
Covid past seven days 
Mississippi
Deaths per 100,000: 1.8
Daily average deaths: 53.7
Florida
Deaths per 100,000: 1.52
Daily average deaths: 325.4
Louisiana
Deaths per 100,000: 1.42
Daily average deaths: 66
Arkansas
Deaths per 100,000: 1.07
Daily average deaths: 32.3
South Carolina
Deaths per 100,000: 1.05
Daily average deaths: 53.9
Texas
Deaths per 100,000: 0.99
Daily average deaths: 286
Wyoming
Deaths per 100,000: 0.96
Daily average deaths: 5.6
West Virginia
Deaths per 100,000: 0.88
Daily average deaths: 15.7
Alabama
Deaths per 100,000: 0.87
Daily average deaths: 42.6
Georgia
Deaths per 100,000: 0.87
Daily average deaths: 93.1
Tennessee
Deaths per 100,000: 0.85
Daily average deaths: 58.3
Idaho
Deaths per 100,000: 0.77
Daily average deaths: 13.7
Missouri
Deaths per 100,000: 0.75
Daily average deaths: 45.9
Oklahoma
Deaths per 100,000: 0.75
Daily average deaths: 29.6
Nevada
Deaths per 100,000: 0.74
Daily average deaths: 22.7
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Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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09-16-2021, 08:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
A little of the typical troll method: creative editing
Covid past seven days
Florida
Deaths per 100,000: 1.52
Daily average deaths: 325.4
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past 7 days? |
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09-16-2021, 08:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
A little of the typical troll method: creative editing
Covid past seven days
Mississippi
Deaths per 100,000: 1.8
Daily average deaths: 53.7
Florida
Deaths per 100,000: 1.52
Daily average deaths: 325.4
Louisiana
Deaths per 100,000: 1.42
Daily average deaths: 66
Arkansas
Deaths per 100,000: 1.07
Daily average deaths: 32.3
South Carolina
Deaths per 100,000: 1.05
Daily average deaths: 53.9
Texas
Deaths per 100,000: 0.99
Daily average deaths: 286
Wyoming
Deaths per 100,000: 0.96
Daily average deaths: 5.6
West Virginia
Deaths per 100,000: 0.88
Daily average deaths: 15.7
Alabama
Deaths per 100,000: 0.87
Daily average deaths: 42.6
Georgia
Deaths per 100,000: 0.87
Daily average deaths: 93.1
Tennessee
Deaths per 100,000: 0.85
Daily average deaths: 58.3
Idaho
Deaths per 100,000: 0.77
Daily average deaths: 13.7
Missouri
Deaths per 100,000: 0.75
Daily average deaths: 45.9
Oklahoma
Deaths per 100,000: 0.75
Daily average deaths: 29.6
Nevada
Deaths per 100,000: 0.74
Daily average deaths: 22.7
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simple question. what’s more important, deaths in the last 7 days, or deaths since the beginning?
Who makes the baseball playoffs, the team with the best record in September? Or the team with the best record for the whole season?
Your brain just doesn’t work right.
Florida is having an awful
time lately. Their total
numbers are still
way better than CT, MA, and NY, which we were told
was led by the messiah himself, the “gold standard” according to biden.
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09-16-2021, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
simple question. what’s more important, deaths in the last 7 days, or deaths since the beginning?
Who makes the baseball playoffs, the team with the best record in September? Or the team with the best record for the whole season?
Your brain just doesn’t work right.
Florida is having an awful
time lately. Their total
numbers are still
way better than CT, MA, and NY, which we were told
was led by the messiah himself, the “gold standard” according to biden.
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You seem to believe that learning from experience is unimportant and that because the states with early outbreaks, when we had little experience dealing with COVID, that did things to reduce exposure so that they are not now dealing with the surges that the leaders in current COVID are is bad.
You could to move to Floriduh, maybe you could keep it from turning blue.
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09-16-2021, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
You seem to believe that learning from experience is unimportant and that because the states with early outbreaks, when we had little experience dealing with COVID, that did things to reduce exposure so that they are not now dealing with the surges that the leaders in current COVID are is bad.
You could to move to Floriduh, maybe you could keep it from turning blue.
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i did not say the data from last week is unimportant. I said it’s not nearly as important as total
death rates.
You are the one saying total death rates are unimportant.
Of course, you completely ignore that part of NYs awful numbers are because the governor ( who everyone in the left said was doing a great job) forced nursing homes to admit people with a disease we knew was going to be brutal to the elderly. we knew that then, yet Cuomo ordered it anyway, and after he did that, and after people
we’re needlessly dying by the thousands, your side still
said he was the greatest.
That’s the difference between us, If Florida’s numbers catch up with NY, I will say Desantis did an awful job. But until he got in trouble for sexual harassment, no one in the left was saying Cuomo did an awful
job. Sure as hell you never said that.
Because to all of you except Rockhound, truth takes a back seat to partisanship. Always
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09-16-2021, 08:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wdmso
Facts and data are no concern of conservatives
But lies and conspiracy then you have their attention
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do you judge a state on how it did last month? or how it’s done since the beginning?
Are you guys serious?
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09-16-2021, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
do you judge a state on how it did last month? or how it’s done since the beginning?
Are you guys serious?
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Jim my statement is not state or Covid related it’s just what conservatives do on every topic . Lean towards lies and conspiracy rather than facts and Truth
Thats why still over 75% of Republicans still think Trump won!
And that’s not based on facts or Truth ..
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09-16-2021, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Jim my statement is not state or Covid related it’s just what conservatives do on every topic . Lean towards lies and conspiracy rather than facts and Truth
Thats why still over 75% of Republicans still think Trump won!
And that’s not based on facts or Truth ..
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it's amusing that you've convinced yourself of this.... |
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09-16-2021, 10:34 AM
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it's amusing that you've convinced yourself of this....
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About as amusing that you think trump won?  |
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09-16-2021, 10:58 AM
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About as amusing that you think trump won? |
I didn't even vote for him...ever...pretty sure I was the first to pay my money to the charity in the wager we had going on here immediately following the election |
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09-16-2021, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Jim my statement is not state or Covid related it’s just what conservatives do on every topic . Lean towards lies and conspiracy rather than facts and Truth
Thats why still over 75% of Republicans still think Trump won!
And that’s not based on facts or Truth ..
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nonsense. i literally analyze data for a living and it’s a huge influence for how i form conclusions.
I can say the same thing about liberals. liberals blame the gop for the fact that not everyone is vaccinated, yet two groups with low vaccination rates are blacks and people with PhDs. Those are not groups who take orders from the GOP in large numbers, are they?
In politics, plenty of people
on both sides ignore facts that are politically inconvenient for them.
The side that denies we have a porous southern border, which thinks that ones sex is whatever they say that it is, that unborn babies with heartbeats and neurological activity are nothing more than an inanimate mile to be removed, which thinks that fewer police is the key to improving cities, which denies that nuclear families are critically important…doesn’t have a monopoly on relying in facts.
Neither does the side that says Trump won, which denies anything is happening with our climate, which insists that masks and the vaccine don’t ever provide any benefit.
When you ignore every instance in which liberalism ignores facts, it’s pretty easy to conclude that they never do so. That doesn’t make it a true statement. It serves your personal agenda, but it’s a stupid thing to say.
The liberals here, are desperately trying to say Florida should be judged only on the covid deaths last week. Please tell me how that is an accurate depiction of facts or truth?
You won’t respond, because you can’t without criticizing the left.
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09-16-2021, 10:43 AM
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nonsense. i literally analyze data for a living and it’s a huge influence for how i form conclusions.
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Jim why do you think every response is about you? unless your part of the 75% of conservatives and republicans I was referring...
example
GOP Sen. Risch of Idaho Absurdly Demands Blinken Expose who has the the button to Turn Biden off
Just the most recent example of the GOP masquerading Conspiracy As Truth .. At Senate Hearing no less |
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09-16-2021, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Jim why do you think every response is about you? unless your part of the 75% of conservatives and republicans I was referring...
example
GOP Sen. Risch of Idaho Absurdly Demands Blinken Expose who has the the button to Turn Biden off
Just the most recent example of the GOP masquerading Conspiracy As Truth .. At Senate Hearing no less
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good point, not every response is all about me.
but all you do is ignore all the bad things the left does, and ignore all the good things the right does. it’s all any of you do.
why is it absurd to ask who is instructing Biden who he can speak to, and when he must stop talking? I’d like to know that.
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09-16-2021, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Jim why do you think every response is about you? unless your part of the 75% of conservatives and republicans I was referring...
example
GOP Sen. Risch of Idaho Absurdly Demands Blinken Expose who has the the button to Turn Biden off
Just the most recent example of the GOP masquerading Conspiracy As Truth .. At Senate Hearing no less
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last night ,CNN host don lemon said we should
shun the unvaccinated, leave them
behind, and that the unvaccinated are stupid people who followed trump.
except huge. umbers if blacks and people with PhDs. aren’t vaccinated.
there’s a lefty defying facts for political convenience, which you said only republicans do.
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09-17-2021, 02:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim in CT
do you judge a state on how it did last month? or how it’s done since the beginning?
Are you guys serious?
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