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Old 09-19-2021, 10:59 AM   #1
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i agree trump
running would be a disaster.

you’re acting like the party is in shambles, the numbers don’t say that. the democrats lost waaaaay more seats under obama, than the republicans lost to teump.

his platform? his platform was popular with all
but the dedicated left. cut taxes, grow the economy, add jobs, cheap gas, energy independence, clobbering terrorists, secure the border, set stock market records, no questionable wars. people, including a lot of independents, liked his platform. they hated his insanity and temper tantrums.

the platform was spot on, he was just the wrong person. but he might have been the only person who could have defeated hilary. and that was extremely important because he nominated three supreme court justices. god knows what madness he prevented by stopping her from nominating three scotus judges.

I can’t imagine he runs again, and if he wins the nomination, the party deserves the abyss it will get shoved into.

to do what he did with the economy, and still get his azz kicked at re-election, has to a send a message to people ( probably not to him) that he had his time, but his time is up.
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I am not going to disagree with most of this. BUT, the party is in shambles..... and it will be tied to Trump until they denounce him and stop running so scared.
As for Jim's comment... about being scared of black people working??? I just don't see any logic in your reasoning to draw such a conclusion.
Ronnie, you are and always have been all in or nothing. Your way or the highway. Suit yourself. But the great majority of America and I believe, S-B, ain't going to bow down to socialism.... But we are pissed off. PO'd about the same corruption you mention in your good-bye post. But I do not see how you connect the dots with Trump showing us all how corrupt things are. Unless, unless you mean his inner circle of advisors, attorneys, and employees who were indicted and or jailed.... You just can't have it both ways. Time to get off the Trump wagon and regroup behind someone who is mentally competent and has demonstrated that they can work with people who they might disagree with, yet still get something done for the greater good.

“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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Old 09-19-2021, 11:10 AM   #2
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Saw this. Just wanted to make sure it is entered into the conversation when there are some who want to call him a great president.
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Old 09-19-2021, 11:27 AM   #3
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I am not going to disagree with most of this. BUT, the party is in shambles..... and it will be tied to Trump until they denounce him and stop running so scared.
As for Jim's comment... about being scared of black people working??? I just don't see any logic in your reasoning to draw such a conclusion.
Ronnie, you are and always have been all in or nothing. Your way or the highway. Suit yourself. But the great majority of America and I believe, S-B, ain't going to bow down to socialism.... But we are pissed off. PO'd about the same corruption you mention in your good-bye post. But I do not see how you connect the dots with Trump showing us all how corrupt things are. Unless, unless you mean his inner circle of advisors, attorneys, and employees who were indicted and or jailed.... You just can't have it both ways. Time to get off the Trump wagon and regroup behind someone who is mentally competent and has demonstrated that they can work with people who they might disagree with, yet still get something done for the greater good.
first i like the way you say things and you can say anything to me i’m a big boy with thick skin.

the gop has half the senate, almost half the house, and for awhile
has had a majority of state legislatures and governorships. we have a much deeper bench than the left. who can they run in 2024 if Biden can’t?

Much of the gop has denounced him as a person. Guys like Dan Crenshaw have said 1,000 times they don’t like his style.

GS said he was frightened at what the gop has become. the gop, under Trump, put all time
records of blacks to work, so i was
making a sarcastic comment.

you think the left won’t bow to socialism? AOC and her ring are a very powerful force within that party. They aren’t running the party. But they aren’t written off as fringe looks either. That party is lurching way to the left, the democrat party is completely unrecognizable as the party that gave us bill clinton ( who i liked) who balanced the budget by cutting taxes and kicking huge numbers of people off welfare, none of whom needed to be on welfare because they all went out and got jobs. They just needed someone to tell them they had to.

“get something done for the greater good”. right before the pandemic, i don’t know how much more Trump
could have done to help the country. i hate the guy, but I, and much of America, liked what he did.

I think if we nominate him again it would be a complete, unmitigated disaster. i don’t believe his ego allows him to see that. i believe, and hope, that the kingmakers within the party see it.

I completely agree it’s 100% time to get off the Trump train. I hope they have the brains to do it. I think if we nominate a mature, kind person who will advocate for the same policies as trump without acting like a 10 year-old bully, they’d be tough to beat in stable times. Covid may make stability elusive.

i don’t think americans like open borders, men competing in physical
contests with women, defunding the police, growing numbers are getting tired of being told that we, and more importantly our children, can’t live normal lives.
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Old 09-19-2021, 11:45 AM   #4
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I am not going to disagree with most of this. BUT, the party is in shambles..... and it will be tied to Trump until they denounce him and stop running so scared.
As for Jim's comment... about being scared of black people working??? I just don't see any logic in your reasoning to draw such a conclusion.
Ronnie, you are and always have been all in or nothing. Your way or the highway. Suit yourself. But the great majority of America and I believe, S-B, ain't going to bow down to socialism.... But we are pissed off. PO'd about the same corruption you mention in your good-bye post. But I do not see how you connect the dots with Trump showing us all how corrupt things are. Unless, unless you mean his inner circle of advisors, attorneys, and employees who were indicted and or jailed.... You just can't have it both ways. Time to get off the Trump wagon and regroup behind someone who is mentally competent and has demonstrated that they can work with people who they might disagree with, yet still get something done for the greater good.
You are the John McCain on this board, but I fear to many like RR are all in regardless of the tangent this party veered off on.
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Old 09-19-2021, 12:23 PM   #5
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You are the John McCain on this board, but I fear to many like RR are all in regardless of the tangent this party veered off on.
what major policies does the gop endorse that McCain would have been against?
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