must be nappy time...

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

“the right enjoy claiming.”

so they’re not actually happening?

I’ve actually been to the Arizona border once and saw plenty of law enforcement on horses. I’d hilly terrain along a river, especially when not right adjacent to. a road, can be a good place to be on a horse.

If they can have cops on horses in Manhattan for gods sake, the southern border towns seem like an absolute no brained to me.
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jim we are talking horses trained in crowd control ... NY city horses and riders are bostons they are . are border control horses trained in crowd control?? from my research I found a site who claimed they trained Border control horses called Mounted Police Training Academy

again a border control horse is not a NY city horse again making these simplistic comparisons .. I have seen boston horses in action it looked nothing like what happened at the river .... it all comes down to optics one side loves it the other hates it

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

jim we are talking horses trained in crowd control ... NY city horses and riders are bostons they are . are border control horses trained in crowd control?? from my research I found a site who claimed they trained Border control horses called Mounted Police Training Academy

again a border control horse is not a NY city horse again making these simplistic comparisons .. I have seen boston horses in action it looked nothing like what happened at the river .... it all comes down to optics one side loves it the other hates it

first, why did you say “the right claims” these caravans are not happening? are you saying there were t thousands and thousands of illegals camped under that bridge?

you do have a point, horses can be dangerous in large crowds ( doesn’t stop NYPD from using them in Manhattan, does it?). i didn’t see any photos or videos of anyone getting trampled. i saw horses being ridden where there were only a handful of people nearby.

If you don’t want to be confronted by law enforcement on horseback, you could always cross al legal crossing points.
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[scottw]

probably need to replace the law enforcement at the border with social workers

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

probably need to replace the law enforcement at the border with social workers

and where is the liberal/media outrage over the squalid conditions these people are forced to endure?

Obama built and used the cages, silence.

Trump used the cages, that made him Hitler, and they used an obama-era photo of kids in cages, to show us how truly evil Trump is. Makes sense.

Now things are way worse under Biden, now back to silence. Their outrage depends on the party of the sitting president.

I’m reminded of Groucho Marx who said “these are my principles, if you don’t like them i have other, different principles.”
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and where is the liberal/media outrage over the squalid conditions these people are forced to endure?

Actually there has been a lot of left wing criticism.

Obama built and used the cages, silence.

Under Obama they built temporary facilities to house mostly unaccompanied minors.

Trump used the cages, that made him Hitler

Because Trump changed the law to force breaking up families. Very different situation.

[scottw]

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT View Post
and where is the liberal/media outrage over the squalid conditions these people are forced to endure?

Obama built and used the cages, silence.

Originally Posted by spence

Under Obama they built temporary facilities to house mostly unaccompanied minors.

so it was ok for Obama to put unaccompanied minors in cages?

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

so it was ok for Obama to put unaccompanied minors in cages?

I'd assume the decision to use chain link dividers was made at a much lower level. Less than ideal but they needed a solution that was cheap and fast. Again, very different than mandating the break up of families, that's a much bigger issue.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Actually there has been a lot of left wing criticism.


Under Obama they built temporary facilities to house mostly unaccompanied minors.


Because Trump changed the law to force breaking up families. Very different situation.

"Actually there has been a lot of left wing criticism. "

Any from you? Didn't think so. WDMSO won't even concede the caravans are real, he said "the right claims there are caravans". That's how far away from reality he is.

"Under Obama they built temporary facilities to house mostly unaccompanied minors."

"Mostly". So you're saying, correctly, that Obama did break up some families (which NO ONE cared about), Trump expanded it, which everyone on the left cried over.

So, you're saying it's OK to forcibly split up some number of family units, but inhuman to go above that number. And by an amazing coincidence, you're going to say that Obama stayed below that number and Trump went over.

Spence, if you traveled with your kids to another country and flagrantly violated their federal laws, you wouldn't expect to be separated from your kids? Additionally, we know that some of these kids are being rented out to some of these adults who are fraudulently posing as a family in order to have a much better chance of staying.

Trump started to refer every single case for criminal processing. Why the heck shouldn't he? Did these people break the law or not?
If they want to stay with their kids (as well as avoid being gang raped by cartels on the Mexican side at illegal crossing points), there is a process for that. It's called legal immigration.

Biden doesn't need another badly bungled incident right now, but that's what he's got. Talking about ice cream isn't working on America anymore, not when they see this magnitude of gross incompetence regarding multiple independent events. Hence his polling, especially among independents.