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Old 10-25-2021, 08:01 PM   #1
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Let’s see, in the full 116th Congress, the overwhelming majority of racial and ethnic nonwhite members are Democrats (90%), while just 10% are Republicans.
I guess the rest didn’t get your memo
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not what i asked

which party fought for slavery, segregation, against school
choice?

i’m well aware of how blacks vote.

any chance you can just answer
my question?
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Old 10-26-2021, 01:05 AM   #2
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not what i asked

which party fought for slavery, segregation, against school
choice?

i’m well aware of how blacks vote.

any chance you can just answer
my question?
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I’ve answered your question plenty of times
It’s pretty simple to find how the parties flipped sides on race in the past century
You can ignore history but can’t rewrite it
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Old 10-26-2021, 02:57 AM   #3
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I’ve answered your question plenty of times
It’s pretty simple to find how the parties flipped sides on race in the past century
You can ignore history but can’t rewrite it
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Oh…the old "party flipping" conspiracy theory again….that’s a good one……


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Old 10-26-2021, 05:24 AM   #4
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I’ve answered your question plenty of times
It’s pretty simple to find how the parties flipped sides on race in the past century
You can ignore history but can’t rewrite it
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no, you’ve “said” the parties flipped on race, you haven’t shown it.


the gop is for slavery and segregation?

the liberals oppose school
choice, didn’t cheer for record low black unemployment at Trumps SOTU ( but they cheered and danced for themselves), they sit by and do nothing while liberal welfare inflicts a Holocaust of fatherlessness into blacks, they kept robert byrd in the senate for 375 years…

it’s all lip service. look at what liberals are doing to blacks in the big cities. everything about liberalism is designed to keep poor bocks in the big cities, and to keep them poor and dependent on government so they have a reliable voting block.
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it’s all lip service. look at what liberals are doing to blacks in the big cities. everything about liberalism is designed to keep poor bocks in the big cities, and to keep them poor and dependent on government so they have a reliable voting block.
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I thought everything wasn’t a conspiracy ?

That didn’t last long
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Old 10-26-2021, 06:31 AM   #6
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not every buses that’s different from yours, is a paranoid conspiracy.

the social science couldn’t be more clear, the root cause of then issues facing blacks today is fatherlessness. i don’t say that because i like it. i say it because it’s true.

but all liberals want to do, is give them slightly larger welfare checks, where of course the welfare check is even larger when there’s no man around, which incentivizes fatherlessness. so after 50 years of this, it’s hard not to conclude that it’s intentional. either that, or your side is too stupid to see the evidence right in front of their faces.

it’s not some wild conspiracy. it’s what’s happening.
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This Father’s Day, I’d like to do something that is long overdue. I’m going to praise African-American men.

Not my own father, who had a profound effect on my life, but the countless other black men who strive, even under the most challenging circumstances, to be good dads.

Some people will argue that such men are rare, or that they do not exist.

They blame the violence and other social ills of impoverished communities on the absence of black men in their children’s lives. They pretend as though single-parent homes are exclusive to African-Americans, and use this misinformation to make moral judgments about black women and the men who father their children.

They paint all black men with one broad stroke, as chronic baby-makers who abandon their responsibilities even before their children are born. And they paint the sons of these black men with the same brush, condemning them to repeat the mistakes learned from their birth fathers.

They ignore the accomplishments of men like Barack Obama, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, Dr. Ben Carson, baseball great Jackie Robinson, playwright August Wilson, Stevie Wonder and Malcolm X — all raised without their biological fathers in the home and became great men.

I could say that the common stereotype of the black man as a deadbeat father is only a myth. But the truth is much more sinister. It is a lie that was planted the moment black men set foot on American soil as slaves, and it has been cultivated for generations with plenty of help from the media.

Could some black men do a better job of raising their children? Absolutely. But so could some white men, Hispanic men, Asian men and others.

Studies have shown that a father’s involvement increases a child’s chances for academic success and reduces the chances of delinquency and substance abuse. But it is not a panacea for all the social issues that contribute to violence and other issues that plague poor African-American communities. Factors such as joblessness, economic disinvestment and institutional racism are beyond any father’s control.

It is indeed troubling, though, that nearly 70 percent of black children are born out of wedlock, according to government statistics. The number far exceeds the 29 percent of white children, 53 percent of Hispanic children and 12 percent of Asian children born in similar circumstances.

But marital status doesn’t tell the whole story.

Statistics also show that 36 percent of white males divorce. But no one questions their relationship with the children they leave behind. The truth is there is no evidence proving that black men who never married their child’s mother care less about their children than white men who divorced theirs.

Five years ago, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a report that debunked several stereotypes about black fathers. According to the report, African-American dads, in fact, spend more time in their children’s day-to-day lives than those in other ethnic groups.

The survey, which was conducted by the National Center for Health Statistics, found that 70 percent of African-American fathers who live with young children bathed, diapered, dressed or helped their kids use the toilet every day, compared with 60 percent of white fathers and 45 percent of Latino fathers.

While all fathers, regardless of race, who live away from their children tend to spend less time with them, the study found that black fathers are no less involved in their children’s lives than other dads. More than half of black fathers talk to their kids about their day several times a week or more. That’s a higher percentage than white or Latino fathers who live apart from their children.

The Pew Research Center found similar evidence of black father involvement. Though black fathers are more likely to live apart from their children, 67 percent of them see their kids at least once a month, compared with 59 percent of white fathers and 32 percent of Hispanic fathers.

What can we surmise from this? There are lots of good African-American fathers out there.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr071.pdf

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Old 10-26-2021, 08:22 AM   #8
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This Father’s Day, I’d like to do something that is long overdue. I’m going to praise African-American men.

Not my own father, who had a profound effect on my life, but the countless other black men who strive, even under the most challenging circumstances, to be good dads.

Some people will argue that such men are rare, or that they do not exist.

They blame the violence and other social ills of impoverished communities on the absence of black men in their children’s lives. They pretend as though single-parent homes are exclusive to African-Americans, and use this misinformation to make moral judgments about black women and the men who father their children.

They paint all black men with one broad stroke, as chronic baby-makers who abandon their responsibilities even before their children are born. And they paint the sons of these black men with the same brush, condemning them to repeat the mistakes learned from their birth fathers.

They ignore the accomplishments of men like Barack Obama, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, Dr. Ben Carson, baseball great Jackie Robinson, playwright August Wilson, Stevie Wonder and Malcolm X — all raised without their biological fathers in the home and became great men.

I could say that the common stereotype of the black man as a deadbeat father is only a myth. But the truth is much more sinister. It is a lie that was planted the moment black men set foot on American soil as slaves, and it has been cultivated for generations with plenty of help from the media.

Could some black men do a better job of raising their children? Absolutely. But so could some white men, Hispanic men, Asian men and others.

Studies have shown that a father’s involvement increases a child’s chances for academic success and reduces the chances of delinquency and substance abuse. But it is not a panacea for all the social issues that contribute to violence and other issues that plague poor African-American communities. Factors such as joblessness, economic disinvestment and institutional racism are beyond any father’s control.

It is indeed troubling, though, that nearly 70 percent of black children are born out of wedlock, according to government statistics. The number far exceeds the 29 percent of white children, 53 percent of Hispanic children and 12 percent of Asian children born in similar circumstances.

But marital status doesn’t tell the whole story.

Statistics also show that 36 percent of white males divorce. But no one questions their relationship with the children they leave behind. The truth is there is no evidence proving that black men who never married their child’s mother care less about their children than white men who divorced theirs.

Five years ago, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a report that debunked several stereotypes about black fathers. According to the report, African-American dads, in fact, spend more time in their children’s day-to-day lives than those in other ethnic groups.

The survey, which was conducted by the National Center for Health Statistics, found that 70 percent of African-American fathers who live with young children bathed, diapered, dressed or helped their kids use the toilet every day, compared with 60 percent of white fathers and 45 percent of Latino fathers.

While all fathers, regardless of race, who live away from their children tend to spend less time with them, the study found that black fathers are no less involved in their children’s lives than other dads. More than half of black fathers talk to their kids about their day several times a week or more. That’s a higher percentage than white or Latino fathers who live apart from their children.

The Pew Research Center found similar evidence of black father involvement. Though black fathers are more likely to live apart from their children, 67 percent of them see their kids at least once a month, compared with 59 percent of white fathers and 32 percent of Hispanic fathers.

What can we surmise from this? There are lots of good African-American fathers out there.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr071.pdf
"Some people will argue that such men are rare, or that they do not exist."

No one ever, ever said that good black dads don't exist. Pete, you yourself do this all the time, you respond to something no one ever said.

(1) 75% of black babies are born without a father.

(2) kids, especially boys, need a good strong Dad.

Again, I don't post those things because it supports a cause of mine. I post them because they are obviously true

"70 percent of African-American fathers who live with young children bathed, diapered, dressed or helped their kids use the toilet every day"

Irrelevant. No ne is saying that black fathers who are there, aren't doing a good job. The problem is too many kids don't have a dad.
Duh.

"there is no evidence proving that black men who never married their child’s mother care less about their children than white men who divorced theirs."

Again, no one is making that claim, so who cares.

"Though black fathers are more likely to live apart from their children, 67 percent of them see their kids at least once a month"

Wow!! Seeing your kid once a month!! I'm so impressed!! I was all worried about nothing!

Kids born to poverty in urban cities (disproportionately black) REALLY need good strong dads. And most of those kids don't have them, which is the best guarantee in the world, of continuing the cycle of poverty.

What a profoundly stupid post.

And you proved my point. For political reasons, you're willing to deny what the real problem is. Which means, you don't care about fixing the problem. You thought you were refuting me, when of course you did the opposite. The exact opposite. You'd rather feel like you won a political argument with a nobody who you'll never meet, than just admit the glaringly obvious. You can't admit the glaringly obvious unless it supports liberalism.

Seeing your kid once a month makes you a responsible dad. Give me a f-cking break. You're beyond stupid. If a liberal said "the earth is flat", that's good enough for you. You think the rates of seeing your child once a month, is a barometer for whether or not a group has good dads.

All kids, of all races, need good dads. The consequences of fatherlessness don't differ much by race. But fatherlessness is WAY more rampant in the black community than it is for other races.

For Gods sake Pete, if racism was a big factor in anything, why are Asians the most economically successful ethnicity in the country? Asians are wealthier than whites. How could that possibly happen in a nation of white supremacists?

Answer - Asian culture places huge importance on strong families, and the incredible power of education and hard work. That's it. Nothing to do with race. Zip.

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not every buses that’s different from yours, is a paranoid conspiracy.

the social science couldn’t be more clear, the root cause of then issues facing blacks today is fatherlessness. i don’t say that because i like it. i say it because it’s true.

but all liberals want to do, is give them slightly larger welfare checks, where of course the welfare check is even larger when there’s no man around, which incentivizes fatherlessness. so after 50 years of this, it’s hard not to conclude that it’s intentional. either that, or your side is too stupid to see the evidence right in front of their faces.

it’s not some wild conspiracy. it’s what’s happening.
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liberalism is designed to keep poor bocks in the big cities, and to keep them poor and dependent on government so they have a reliable voting block.

That’s ^^^^ a conspiracy Jim

You did mention it sorry

inflicts a Holocaust of fatherlessness into blacks

Wow.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...-black-father/

https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebat...E&gclsrc=aw.ds


Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) spoke out on the protests surrounding the death of Freddie Gray in Baltimore, linking the violence to a "lack of fathers" in an interview with right-wing radio host Laura Ingraham

I came through the train on Baltimore [sic] last night, I'm glad the train didn't stop," Paul said, laughing.

I doubt Paul’s comments were for Ingraham’s black audience

Are there Black fathers not taking their responsibilities seriously? Of course.

Does that mean that Black fathers overall should be stereotyped as irresponsible? Only if you’re detached from the realities and nuances of Black life.

The “Black fatherlessness” anthem is sung mostly by conservatives eager to summarily dismiss empirically true claims of structural racism. Deadbeat dad noir is their reliable weapon of choice to extinguish claims that the white power structure harms Blacks.

https://www.nevadacurrent.com/2021/0...-black-father/

Seems to be a conservatives driven observation

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liberalism is designed to keep poor bocks in the big cities, and to keep them poor and dependent on government so they have a reliable voting block.

That’s a conspiracy Jim

PS you never mentioned black fatherless nor did I

Moving the goal post again shocking
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maybe it is a conspiracy, but that doesn’t mean it’s false. why does the media brutally go after the small umber if blacks who are conservative? an msnbc host said recently that Condaleeza Rice is a foot soldier of white supremacy. Nice.

you also claimed i made up a false conspiracy between the media and the democrats.

did you hear that nancy pelosi recently scolded the media for not doing a good enough job “selling” the $3.5 trillion democrat spending bill?

Why would speaker pelosi feel
like she should be able to expect the media to help her in this way? why do you suppose she was expecting more assistance from the media in “selling” her agenda to americans?

answer- because that’s what the media does, so pelosi was counting on it.
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