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11-02-2021, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
You do realize many groups have opposed the book being used in schools for a variety of reasons? Racists segregationists didn’t like it, many on the right oppose the profanity and discussion of rape.
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the most common reason is the racist language, I haven't heard many other reasons.
So with CRT, liberals want to make sure kids are taught what whited did to blacks.
But with To Kill A Mockingbird, for some reason kids aren't capable of handling the historical context, even though it's accurate?
With CRT, the liberal rallying cry is not to whitewash history. Why doesn't that apply to this book?
Do you understand, that in this book, the racists aren't portrayed favorably? They're portrayed as disgusting.
"many on the right oppose the profanity and discussion of rape"
Not "many". I'm sure some puritans do, but hardly "many". I wouldn't have first graders read it.
Anyway, what do you liberals want? An accurate depiction of history? Or a whitewashed version? It's very hard to tell.
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11-02-2021, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
the most common reason is the racist language, I haven't heard many other reasons.
So with CRT, liberals want to make sure kids are taught what whited did to blacks.
But with To Kill A Mockingbird, for some reason kids aren't capable of handling the historical context, even though it's accurate?
With CRT, the liberal rallying cry is not to whitewash history. Why doesn't that apply to this book?
Do you understand, that in this book, the racists aren't portrayed favorably? They're portrayed as disgusting.
"many on the right oppose the profanity and discussion of rape"
Not "many". I'm sure some puritans do, but hardly "many". I wouldn't have first graders read it.
Anyway, what do you liberals want? An accurate depiction of history? Or a whitewashed version? It's very hard to tell.
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CRT only exist in your imagination Jim you've been brainwashed to think it's everywhere .. by some secret liberal organization who even installed it in red states ... So all these parents suddenly got educated about CRT .. Ya ok that's how it happened , and these same parents think Trump won the election ..
yet you and other can't show any public k -12 school where its being taught..
its just keep lying over and over to convince the gullible and clearly uninformed
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11-02-2021, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
CRT only exist in your imagination Jim you've been brainwashed to think it's everywhere .. by some secret liberal organization who even installed it in red states ... So all these parents suddenly got educated about CRT .. Ya ok that's how it happened , and these same parents think Trump won the election ..
yet you and other can't show any public k -12 school where its being taught..
its just keep lying over and over to convince the gullible and clearly uninformed
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"CRT only exist in your imagination Jim you've been brainwashed to think it's everywhere"
Please post anything I've ever said, that made you conclude I think it's everywhere.
"yet you and other can't show any public k -12 school where its being taught..:jump"
I don't make claims to know where it's taught or not. But here's what appears to be solid evidence, that it's promoted (if not t aught) in VA. Just because CNN says this is made up, means it's made up.
It is actually possible, for conservatives to have a point once in awhile.
https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/14...ginia-schools/
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11-04-2021, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
"CRT only exist in your imagination Jim you've been brainwashed to think it's everywhere"
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"The Center for Renewing America developed a glossary of buzzwords and definitions frequently used to disguise the CRT teaching concepts in the classroom. From the website, "Critical Race Theory isn't always presented as Critical Race Theory. The framework of CRT can be utilized to frame other concepts or present them in an inappropriate context." In plain speak, by parsing, substituting, or rephrasing key terminology, school administrators and teachers covertly incorporated the CRT language and the pedagogy into their daily lesson planning.
A Virginia school district spent $30,000 on Critical Race Theory training for administrators.
When McAuliffe was Virginia's governor, he encouraged teachers "to embrace Critical Race Theory as part of its Culturally-Responsive Teaching and Learning Principles, with a stated desire to re-engineer attitudes and belief systems."
The CRT ideology is so prevalent in Virginia public schools that in 2019, not only did several VA school superintendents endorse CRT in a memo to district teachers, but one school superintendent promoted both Critical Race Theory and the idea of "White Fragility;" based on the book of the same name by Robin DiAngelo.
Another VA superintendent's memo endorsed "Foundations of Critical Race Theory in Education" as an important resource, which enables and will ensure race-based developments in education.
On the Virginia Department of Education website the words "Critical Race Theory" appear multiple times. "
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11-04-2021, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by scottw
"The Center for Renewing America developed a glossary of buzzwords and definitions frequently used to disguise the CRT teaching concepts in the classroom. From the website, "Critical Race Theory isn't always presented as Critical Race Theory. The framework of CRT can be utilized to frame other concepts or present them in an inappropriate context." In plain speak, by parsing, substituting, or rephrasing key terminology, school administrators and teachers covertly incorporated the CRT language and the pedagogy into their daily lesson planning.
A Virginia school district spent $30,000 on Critical Race Theory training for administrators.
When McAuliffe was Virginia's governor, he encouraged teachers "to embrace Critical Race Theory as part of its Culturally-Responsive Teaching and Learning Principles, with a stated desire to re-engineer attitudes and belief systems."
The CRT ideology is so prevalent in Virginia public schools that in 2019, not only did several VA school superintendents endorse CRT in a memo to district teachers, but one school superintendent promoted both Critical Race Theory and the idea of "White Fragility;" based on the book of the same name by Robin DiAngelo.
Another VA superintendent's memo endorsed "Foundations of Critical Race Theory in Education" as an important resource, which enables and will ensure race-based developments in education.
On the Virginia Department of Education website the words "Critical Race Theory" appear multiple times. "
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No bias in that source
The Center for Renewing America is a right-leaning nonprofit organization created by Russell Vought, director of the Office of Management and Budget under former President Donald Trump. The organization’s work focuses on opposing censorship of conservatives big tech companies, opposing the spread of critical race theory, and advocating for stricter security measures in U.S. elections.
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11-02-2021, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
the most common reason is the racist language, I haven't heard many other reasons.
So with CRT, liberals want to make sure kids are taught what whited did to blacks.
But with To Kill A Mockingbird, for some reason kids aren't capable of handling the historical context, even though it's accurate?
With CRT, the liberal rallying cry is not to whitewash history. Why doesn't that apply to this book?
Do you understand, that in this book, the racists aren't portrayed favorably? They're portrayed as disgusting.
"many on the right oppose the profanity and discussion of rape"
Not "many". I'm sure some puritans do, but hardly "many". I wouldn't have first graders read it.
Anyway, what do you liberals want? An accurate depiction of history? Or a whitewashed version? It's very hard to tell.
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Now you are conflating a novel with what you call critical race theory.
In to kill a Mockingbird, Rich whites are good, poor whites are trash and blacks are the victims who cannot defend themselves.
It's a novel....
I know admitting that there are bad things in our history is hard, but if you think that is the end of America as you see it, just what are you afraid to lose?
You are perfectly willing to point out what you see as the frailties of other races, but are horrified that anyone would ask you to look at the things that have been done for years in this country that are not perfect. What is the horrible thing that will happen? Someone might feel guilty, or that things might change slightly.
Critical Race Theory has been around for longer than you and it only became an issue in the very recent past.
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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