Rittenhouse was legally in possession of that rifle

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Read the law, that’s not what it says. The judge is trying to get this kid off with nothing. I don’t think he should be in jail for life but he needs to own up to his incredibly reckless behavior.

post the law then spence, or give it a rest. i’m going by the judge. the judge got the prosecutor team to concede that the rifle was long enough such that it was legal. the prosecutor stated that.

we don’t put people in prison for doing things you don’t happen to like, unless he breaks a law. i don’t see a broken law.

the media lies help the right. an acquittal helps the riot. subsequent rioting will help the right.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the media lies

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yet another narrative created and pushed by the left and media for political proposes falls apart....I wonder if we can get a vaccine to protect us from these people?

not a right wing loon....https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/...s-collapse-650

When All The Media Narratives Collapse
In case after case, the US MSM just keeps getting it wrong.
Andrew Sullivan NOV 12


Trump was right, in the end, about the dodgy dossier; he was right about the duped FBI’s original overreach; and the mass media — Rachel Maddow chief among them — were wrong. And yet the dossier dominated the headlines for three years, and the “corrections” have a fraction of the audience of the errors. Maddow gets promoted. And the man who first published it, Ben Smith, was made the media columnist for the NYT.

Think of the other narratives the MSM pushed in recent years that have collapsed. They viciously defamed the Covington boys. They authoritatively told us that bounties had been placed on US soldiers in Afghanistan by Putin — and Trump’s denials only made them more certain. They told us that the lab-leak theory of Covid was a conspiracy theory with no evidence behind it at all. (The NYT actually had the story of the leak theory, by Donald McNeil, killed it, and then fired McNeil, their best Covid reporter, after some schoolgirls complained he wasn’t woke.) Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

The MSM took the ludicrous story of Jussie Smollett seriously because it fit their nutty “white supremacy” narrative. They told us that a woman was brutally gang-raped at UVA (invented), that the Pulse mass shooting was driven by homophobia (untrue) and that the Atlanta spa shooter was motivated by anti-Asian bias (no known evidence for that at all). For good measure, they followed up with story after story about white supremacists targeting Asian-Americans, in a new wave of “hate,” even as the assaults were disproportionately by African Americans and the mentally ill.

As Greenwald noted, the NYT “published an emotionally gut-wrenching but complete fiction that never had any evidence — that Officer Sicknick’s skull was savagely bashed in with a fire extinguisher by a pro-Trump mob until he died.” The media told us that an alleged transgender exposure in the Wi Spa in Los Angeles was an anti-trans hoax (also untrue). They told us that the emails recovered on Hunter Biden’s laptop were Russian disinformation. They did this just before an election and used that claim to stymie the story on social media. But they were not Russian disinformation. They were a valid if minor news story the media consciously kept from its audience for partisan purposes.

More recently, the MSM were telling us for months that inflation is a phantasm. We were told that the “2021 Inflation Scare is another in a series of false alarms going back several decades.” We were assured that “the numbers at least for now are on the side of those expecting the trend to subside and then stabilize at lower levels.” Any concern was “fearmongering politics.” And now we wake up to the highest inflation in 30 years, counter-balancing wage increases. Still, they tell us, all will be well.

We were told that vaccines would end the Covid pandemic. But they merely altered Covid to a manageable disease that you could still contract while vaccinated. We were told that the migrant surge at the border was just seasonal, and nothing out of the ordinary, even as 1.7 million migrants were illegally trying to get into the country in the last year. We were told that sending migrants back to their home countries was a wicked and unconscionable Trump tactic — even as the Biden administration swiftly copied it with Haitian immigrants — to much success. The cruelty is the point, eh?

We were — and still are! — being told by most of the media that critical race theory isn’t in high schools at all. Meanwhile, a tsunami of evidence is out there showing that it absolutely is — in every subject, and every class, as the central philosophy behind many states’ education policies.

We all get things wrong. What makes this more worrying is simply that all these false narratives just happen to favor the interests of the left and the Democratic party.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

we don’t put people in prison for doing things you don’t happen to like, unless he breaks a law. i don’t see a broken law.
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Spence is wrong, yet again. I must say, at least he's consistent. Here arethe laws on the books if anyone would care to peruse them

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...tatutes/948/55

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...tes/941/iii/28

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...utes/29/iv/304

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...es/29/viii/593

"poorly worded law"

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Spence is wrong, yet again. I must say, at least he's consistent. Here arethe laws on the books if anyone would care to peruse them

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...tatutes/948/55

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...tes/941/iii/28

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...utes/29/iv/304

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/sta...es/29/viii/593

"poorly worded law"

in which “poorly worded” means, Spence doesn’t like it.

it doesn’t matter if he likes it, the people of Wisconsin like it.

his best comeback is “well do you think a 17 year old kid should be acting like a Texas Ranger with an AR-15…”

The wisdom of what Rittenhouse did could not matter less in court. All that matters is the legality of what he did.

17 year-old boys typically aren’t in possession of a lot of wisdom. They can’t be, because wisdom is a function of experience.

His mother on the other hand, god almighty lady what were you thinking.

all the lefties here were fooled by the press. the press beat the drum endlessly that he possessed that gin illegally. i heard that 500 times since this began.

the press said he was a white supremacist. i assumed
he shot black people.

the press made it seem like he had no reason to want to protect Kenosha. I learned yesterday that his father lives there, it’s like his second home.

To the lefties here, would you like it if the press all got together to do this to your child?

Trump caught tons of heat for saying the press is the enemy of the people. Well, they were the enemy of the duke lacrosse team, of Darren Wilson, of Nick Samdman, and of Rittenhouse, for sure. The media lied about these people to push a political narrative. That’s a demonstrable pattern. That doesn’t bother the lefties here?

The press absolutely is the enemy of anyone that stands between them and promoting The Narrative.

The media lied, making it more likely these people would be vilified and sent to prison, to serve a political
narrative. That doesn’t bother you guys?

How many times do they get to be this wrong, before they start to lose credibility with you guys? Is there any limit?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

in which “poorly worded” means, Spence doesn’t like it.

it doesn’t matter if he likes it, the people of Wisconsin like it.

his best comeback is “well do you think a 17 year old kid should be acting like a Texas Ranger with an AR-15…”

The wisdom of what Rittenhouse did could not matter less in court. All that matters is the legality of what he did.

17 year-old boys typically aren’t in possession of a lot of wisdom. They can’t be, because wisdom is a function of experience.

His mother on the other hand, god almighty lady what were you thinking.

all the lefties here were fooled by the press. the press beat the drum endlessly that he possessed that gin illegally. i heard that 500 times since this began.

the press said he was a white supremacist. i assumed
he shot black people.

the press made it seem like he had no reason to want to protect Kenosha. I learned yesterday that his father lives there, it’s like his second home.

To the lefties here, would you like it if the press all got together to do this to your child?

Trump caught tons of heat for saying the press is the enemy of the people. Well, they were the enemy of the duke lacrosse team, of Darren Wilson, of Nick Samdman, and of Rittenhouse, for sure. The media lied about these people to push a political narrative. That’s a demonstrable pattern. That doesn’t bother the lefties here?

The press absolutely is the enemy of anyone that stands between them and promoting The Narrative.

The media lied, making it more likely these people would be vilified and sent to prison, to serve a political
narrative. That doesn’t bother you guys?

How many times do they get to be this wrong, before they start to lose credibility with you guys? Is there any limit?
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This kid is Jim’s hero it’s amazing to watch . Still more outrage over the press coverage of this kid

Then Trump still claiming he won or that he tried to overthrow an election

You have some f up priorities
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

This kid is Jim’s hero it’s amazing to watch

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you obviously have not read anything Jim has written on the subject...that is what is amazing

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

you obviously have not read anything Jim has written on the subject...that is what is amazing

is really like to know, is he aware of what i said and he’s ignoring it to make it easier for him to respond? or has he actually never seen me say Rittenhouse was an idiot?

it’s an interesting question. Well never know the answer.

it is amazing.

still trying to comprehend the holiday inn express comment.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

you obviously have not read anything Jim has written on the subject...that is what is amazing

Oh I have.. and he has completely ignored all the evidence presented

According to Jim the kid is not responsible for his actions nothing he’s just a poor victim. And did nothing wrong..

Who should be seen as a law enforcement officer who has experience and trained in these situations

And was justified because he thought he was going to be killed or he thought they were going to take his gun and use it on Him .. Bla bla bla

Like I’ve said you start a fight and start losing . You cannot decide to suddenly claim self defense

The kid thought the Ar 15 gave him the power of intimidation. Why else would a 17 year we walking around solo in that environment

Being Immature didn’t help.

And I am not saying this kid went with a plan to shoot 3 people

but he went with the mindset he was willing to use his weapon and show those s people what’s what ..

It had nothing to do with with his desire to carry out some civic duty

As some have suggested
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Oh I have.. and he has completely ignored all the evidence presented

According to Jim the kid is not responsible for his actions nothing he’s just a poor victim. And did nothing wrong..

Who should be seen as a law enforcement officer who has experience and trained in these situations

And was justified because he thought he was going to be killed or he thought they were going to take his gun and use it on Him .. Bla bla bla

Like I’ve said you start a fight and start losing . You cannot decide to suddenly claim self defense

The kid thought the Ar 15 gave him the power of intimidation. Why else would a 17 year we walking around solo in that environment

Being Immature didn’t help.

And I am not saying this kid went with a plan to shoot 3 people

but he went with the mindset he was willing to use his weapon and show those s people what’s what ..

It had nothing to do with with his desire to carry out some civic duty

As some have suggested
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again, you’re either very stupid or very much a liar.

he’s responsible for his actions. but he doesn’t get convicted, unless he broke the law. that’s how it works.

“nothing to do with his desire to carry out some civic duty.”

must be nice being a mind reader. we are all shocked that your wild speculation here, supports the liberal narrative.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Oh I have.. and he has completely ignored all the evidence presented

Jim has not ignored the evidence presented in the trial. Your opinions are not evidence.

According to Jim the kid is not responsible for his actions nothing he’s just a poor victim. And did nothing wrong..

Jim will probably correct your misrepresentation or lie or willful blindness or whatever it is, but, unless I'm as blind as you, I have not seen Jim say any of that.

Who should be seen as a law enforcement officer who has experience and trained in these situations

??

And was justified because he thought he was going to be killed or he thought they were going to take his gun and use it on Him .. Bla bla bla

The evidence presented in the trial backs up what he thought. Unlike your repeated bla bla bla opinionated comments.

Like I’ve said you start a fight and start losing . You cannot decide to suddenly claim self defense

What fight did he start? Is this more of your bla bla blaisms?

The kid thought the Ar 15 gave him the power of intimidation. Why else would a 17 year we walking around solo in that environment

Of course, there is no way, according to you, that he could have considered it was a means of protecting himself in a riotous situation. It could only mean, in your "why else" frame of opinionated bla blaismatic way of thinking that he wanted to walk around solo to intimidate.

Being Immature didn’t help.

True, but not a crime.

And I am not saying this kid went with a plan to shoot 3 people

That's a relief.

but he went with the mindset he was willing to use his weapon and show those s people what’s what ..

In the vast majority of times people carry a weapon they have a mindset of willingness to use it. That's what it's for.
Such a mindset is normal, not criminal.

It had nothing to do with with his desire to carry out some civic duty

As some have suggested
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Given you lack of credibility in your reliance on your opinion rather than on facts, evidence, and law, your conjecture/accusation on what his desire was carries no significant weight--that is, it is just more bla bla bla.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

This kid is Jim’s hero it’s amazing to watch . Still more outrage over the press coverage of this kid

Then Trump still claiming he won or that he tried to overthrow an election

You have some f up priorities
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Rittenhouse was stupid and reckless to go there with a gun.

trump lost the election. there’s zero evidence it was stolen.

You have some f’d up comprehension skills.

seriously, are those sentences going too fast for you? are they not clear? maybe my “holiday inn express” vernacular just doesn’t compute between your ears.

honest to god, how can you not get what my views are? those words are too big for you?

you’re either a moron, or a liar. those are literally your only two choices, there is no third possibility. moron or liar.
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