Spence, tell me he media doesn’t lie, again?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

tucker carlson used to work at cnn. they go where the money is.
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There’s a reason Fox News is not allowed in other countries

Stephen Hayes and Jonah Goldberg pointed to a breaking point earlier this month: network star Tucker Carlson's three-part series on the Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol that relied on fabrications and conspiracy theories to exonerate the Trump supporters who participated in the attack.

"It's basically saying that the Biden regime is coming after half the country and this is the War on Terror 2.0," Goldberg tells NPR. "It traffics in all manner of innuendo and conspiracy theories that I think legitimately could lead to violence. That for me, and for Steve, was the last straw."
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

"It traffics in all manner of innuendo and conspiracy theories"

Sounds like you.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Sounds like you.

Mueller, IC, and Senate intel committee (led by a Republican) reports tell the story:
* Russia attacked the US election to help Trump.
* Trump aided and abetted that attack by denying its existence and providing cover to Putin.

You cannot handle the truth.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Mueller, IC, and Senate intel committee (led by a Republican) reports tell the story:
* Russia attacked the US election to help Trump.
* Trump aided and abetted that attack by denying its existence and providing cover to Putin.

You cannot handle the truth.
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I had no trouble handling the Mueller Report, Nor the Rittenhouse decision, nor the false accusations that Trump said that Nazis were very fine people, nor the several other conspiratorial accusations that you promoted on this forum. No problem at all.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

There’s a reason Fox News is not allowed in other countries

Stephen Hayes and Jonah Goldberg pointed to a breaking point earlier this month: network star Tucker Carlson's three-part series on the Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol that relied on fabrications and conspiracy theories to exonerate the Trump supporters who participated in the attack.

"It's basically saying that the Biden regime is coming after half the country and this is the War on Terror 2.0," Goldberg tells NPR. "It traffics in all manner of innuendo and conspiracy theories that I think legitimately could lead to violence. That for me, and for Steve, was the last straw."
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"There’s a reason Fox News is not allowed in other countries "

Yes, there is. It's the same exact reason why liberals riot when a conservative is invited to speak on a college campus. Liberals don't like being challenged. Liberals don't like opposing ideas. Because they know their ideas don't hold up well to an honest comparison with conservative ideas.

I like Goldberg and Hayes. I'm sorry to see them go, I found them both extremely logical and decent. I agree with them that Tuckers special on January 6 was weird. What CNN and MSNBC have said about January 6th is equally outrageous to me.

I don't watch Fox alot. and so much for the hosts (though I'll take them over anyone on CNN or MSNBC).. I like the guests. I always loved Charles Krauthammer, and now I love Victor Davis Hansen. You won't find anything close to those two men, anywhere on MSNBC or CNN or anywhere else. No one comes close.

January 6th was a few dozen jerks who threw a temper tantrum. Maybe a few of them hoped that somehow they were going to change the election results, but that's a few kooks. There was no widespread plot, no more than there's widespread plot among white cops to slaughter black people, yet every TV station other than Foxnews claims there is, and that stupid claim has led to violence and murder.

I posted a video of an exchange on MSNBC the day the Rittenhouse verdict was reached. It was as dishonest, unhinged, and deranged as anything I'll ever hear on Foxnews.

There's partisan nonsense on the air at Foxnews. Just like there is at every other lefty station. But you occasionally get something honest or thought-provoking at Fox that I don't see anywhere else. And I look.

The night of the verdict, Chris Cuomo shocked me by saying the verdict was the only possible outcome under the law. It was refreshing. If he could do that more often, I'd watch him more often. But it was more likely a desperate attempt to convince Rittenhouse not to sue the pants off that place, which he will surely do anyway.

I can watch Foxnews, and turn it off when rabid partisans are simply howling at the moon. On the other networks, that's all there is. Jujst like with you guys here.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

January 6th was a few dozen jerks who threw a temper tantrum.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

How many people were inside the capital? A million?

Did the Chewbacca guy (40 months for goofy trespassing seems harsh to me) have a well-thought out plan for the coup?

They took a page right out of you sides well-worn playbook, staged a much more peaceful riot than your side did that summer, demanded that they get their way, and the system told them to f-ck off, exactly as the system is supposed to tell them.

There are way too many conservatives for my liking, who act like there's hard evidence the election was stolen. There's also too many liberals fo rmy liking (almost all of them) who say that everything, including the Rittenhouse event, is a matter of white supremacy. Each side spewing lies for political gain. There are 2 differences. (1) Foxnews doesn't claim every night all night, that the election was stolen, but you almost everything on MSNBC and CNN is presented through the prism of race. (2) the only person killed as a direct result of the Trump riot, was an unarmed, tiny, female rioter, shot without warning while obviously posing no immediate threat to anyone, killed by a cop with a documented history of being stupidly reckless with his gun.

Your side is more choked up about the death a 4- or 5-time child rapist who announced that he was going to kill Rittenhouse for absolutely no reason, then tried to take his rifle.

Have fun with that. I have to go to starch my robe for tonights klan meeting.

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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

There are way too many conservatives for my liking, who act like there's hard evidence the election was stolen.

.

probably because it's so hard to accept that a lump like biden got a bazillion votes

it's understandable....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

probably because it's so hard to accept that a lump like biden got a bazillion votes

it's understandable....

Our guy made fun of John McCain for being captured in a war, claimed Ted Cruzs father was involved in the JFK assassination, and made of fun of the appearance of almost every republican running against him. It's not hard to see how a huge number of people would vote for Stalin if he were running against Trump (the lefties here would so so with glee, in fact).

However, when every election is going your way until the nation is asleep, then you wake up and found out it went the other way, eventually you have to ask some questions.

The obvious answer is to nominate someone who will advocate for the same popular policies Trump did, but do so while acting like a rational, composed adult. That doesn't mean letting the media sh*t al over you with a smile on your face, the way Bush, McCain, and Romney did. You can fight back, but do it like an adult. Just show America how insane they all are, it's not hard. Desantis is doing it all the time. I'm not saying it has to be him. Anyone who can be Trump without the embarassing, spoiled brat 8 year-old.

They have absolutely no bench on the left, NONE. I always assumed Harris was the shoe-in for 2024, I don't think they can run her, I think even they know she's a clown (who knew that when you nominate an unaccomplished, completely unprincipled empty suit who slept her way to the top, that it could have a downside?). All the GOP would have to do, is show the debate clip when hottie Tulsi Gabbard disemboweled Harris on national TV, gutting her campaign like a fish.
Gabbard ended Harris' campaign with 20 seconds of irrefutable truth.

I think the lefty kingmakers want Buttigieg. Which is also good for a huge national laugh. What if we get invaded and he has to go out on paternity leave again?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Our guy

I don't really like trump, I never voted for him, I do find him amusing in the same way I find pete and spence amusing....

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

They have absolutely no bench on the left, NONE.

I heard BETO is gonna save the party....

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

They have absolutely no bench on the left, NONE. I always assumed Harris was the shoe-in for 2024, I don't think they can run her, I think even they know she's a clown (who knew that when you nominate an unaccomplished, completely unprincipled empty suit who slept her way to the top, that it could have a downside?). All the GOP would have to do, is show the debate clip when hottie Tulsi Gabbard disemboweled Harris on national TV, gutting her campaign like a fish.
Gabbard ended Harris' campaign with 20 seconds of irrefutable truth.

I think the lefty kingmakers want Buttigieg. Which is also good for a huge national laugh. What if we get invaded and he has to go out on paternity leave again?

I really hope you're going to confessional this week.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Stephen Hayes and Jonah Goldberg

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you can have them if we get Tulsi Gabbard

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

you can have them if we get Tulsi Gabbard

I think you already have, between her and Iwanna you should be all set
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