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Old 12-07-2021, 04:22 PM   #1
Jim in CT
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there’s zero institutional racism in healthcare today.


Your words ! now let’s see your extensive research on the topic
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health insurance companies don’t tell employers which jobs will offer health insurance and which will not.

health insurance companies don’t tell employees to stick all black applicants with crappy jobs.

i agree blacks don’t get enough good jobs. you say that’s caused by racism, because that’s the simplest possible answer that also serves your agenda.

if you say there’s racism in today’s healthcare, the burden of proof is in you, not me.

blacks being less likely to have jobs that offer health insurance, doesn’t come close to proving racism.

people born to single moms who aren’t stable, tend to struggle
mightily. that’s true regardless of race. that’s how we know it’s not caused by racism.

can you show that companies give health insurance to white employees but not to blacks, when they’re in the same job? that companies are using race as the basis of who gets healthcare and who doesn’t?

unless you can show that, you got nothing.

if i show you data that there aren’t a lot of jews in the NBA, would you immediately conclude that’s because of anti semitism?
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Old 12-08-2021, 05:35 PM   #2
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health insurance companies don’t tell employers which jobs will offer health insurance and which will not.

health insurance companies don’t tell employees to stick all black applicants with crappy jobs.

i agree blacks don’t get enough good jobs. you say that’s caused by racism, because that’s the simplest possible answer that also serves your agenda.

if you say there’s racism in today’s healthcare, the burden of proof is in you, not me.

blacks being less likely to have jobs that offer health insurance, doesn’t come close to proving racism.

people born to single moms who aren’t stable, tend to struggle
mightily. that’s true regardless of race. that’s how we know it’s not caused by racism.

can you show that companies give health insurance to white employees but not to blacks, when they’re in the same job? that companies are using race as the basis of who gets healthcare and who doesn’t?

unless you can show that, you got nothing.

if i show you data that there aren’t a lot of jews in the NBA, would you immediately conclude that’s because of anti semitism?
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So all jobs come with health care in all states wow that’s news to me

New data from the Census Bureau reveals that 92% of people in the US had health insurance coverage leaving 8%, or 26.1 million, without any coverage throughout the year.

No suggestion they are all black before you go there

Ps Texas Georgia Fla Oklahoma have the highest rates of uninsured

also the 1st 3 have the highest black population in the country….
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Old 12-08-2021, 06:29 PM   #3
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So all jobs come with health care in all states wow that’s news to me


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how on Earth could you read my post, and possibly interpret it as my saying “all jobs provide healthcare?”

i specifically said not all jobs provide healthcare.

i think we are about done, it’s literally pointless.

i can post 2+2=4, and you’ll
say “oh, so you’re saying that Donald Trump is a perfect human being .”

you literally just type whatever irrational gibberish jumps into your head.

blacks are disproportionately less likely to have jobs that offer health insurance. that has absolutely nothing to do with racism in the health industry. it has more to do with socioeconomic challenges of people who make bad decisions.

have you ever worked in the private sector? Ever?

Blacks who are born to two stable, living, committed parents,,tend to do just fine.

White kids born to single white moms who dropped out of high school, tend to struggle mighty.

It’s not about race. It’s just not. You said the other day that statistics don’t lie, yet you constantly ignore or defy any and all statistics that don’t flatter liberalism.
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Old 12-08-2021, 08:06 PM   #4
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how on Earth could you read my post, and possibly interpret it as my saying “all jobs provide healthcare?”

i specifically said not all jobs provide healthcare.

i think we are about done, it’s literally pointless.

i can post 2+2=4, and you’ll
say “oh, so you’re saying that Donald Trump is a perfect human being .”

you literally just type whatever irrational gibberish jumps into your head.

blacks are disproportionately less likely to have jobs that offer health insurance. that has absolutely nothing to do with racism in the health industry. it has more to do with socioeconomic challenges of people who make bad decisions.

have you ever worked in the private sector? Ever?

Blacks who are born to two stable, living, committed parents,,tend to do just fine.

White kids born to single white moms who dropped out of high school, tend to struggle mighty.

It’s not about race. It’s just not. You said the other day that statistics don’t lie, yet you constantly ignore or defy any and all statistics that don’t flatter liberalism.
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Your typical simplistic privileged white boy answer
Pay no attention to the facts when you recite your rhetoric
Never mind that police departments have rewarded officers for arrests and guess who are the easy targets with little hope of an adequate defense.
There’s a reason a large percentage of imprisoned people in this country are people of color.

The United States in effect operates two distinct criminal justice systems: one for wealthy people and another for poor people and people of color. The wealthy can access a vigorous adversary system replete with constitutional protections for defendants. Yet the experiences of poor and minority defendants within the criminal justice system often differ substantially from that model due to a number of factors, each of which contributes to the overrepresentation of such individuals in the system. As former Georgetown Law Professor David Cole states in his book No Equal Justice,

These double standards are not, of course, explicit; on the face of it, the criminal law is color-blind and class-blind. But in a sense, this only makes the problem worse. The rhetoric of the criminal justice system sends the message that our society carefully protects everyone’s constitutional rights, but in practice the rules assure that law enforcement prerogatives will generally prevail over the rights of minorities and the poor. By affording criminal suspects substantial constitutional rights in theory, the Supreme Court validates the results of the criminal justice system as fair. That formal fairness obscures the systemic concerns that ought to be raised by the fact that the prison population is overwhelmingly poor and disproportionately black.

Now tell me how it’s just because they’re lazy ………
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Old 12-08-2021, 10:38 PM   #5
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how on Earth could you read my post, and possibly interpret it as my saying “all jobs provide healthcare?”

i specifically said not all jobs provide healthcare.

i think we are about done, it’s literally pointless.

i can post 2+2=4, and you’ll
say “oh, so you’re saying that Donald Trump is a perfect human being .”

you literally just type whatever irrational gibberish jumps into your head.

blacks are disproportionately less likely to have jobs that offer health insurance. that has absolutely nothing to do with racism in the health industry. it has more to do with socioeconomic challenges of people who make bad decisions.

have you ever worked in the private sector? Ever?

Blacks who are born to two stable, living, committed parents,,tend to do just fine.

White kids born to single white moms who dropped out of high school, tend to struggle mighty.

It’s not about race. It’s just not. You said the other day that statistics don’t lie, yet you constantly ignore or defy any and all statistics that don’t flatter liberalism.
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Jim you only brought up employee based healthcare and made it sound that all jobs provide healthcare?” that’s why I asked

i agree blacks don’t get enough good jobs. you say that’s caused by racism,

I never said such a thing but thanks for trying
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