did they arrest the gun yet?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I can go out to my garage and create a functional bump stock out of wood in about 30 minutes, I agree that there is no need for them in society, but banning them won't stop someone from using them.

Unfortunately on Red Flag laws, who decides what a Red Flag is? That is the inherent problem with them. You can't really just disarm a whole household, just because somebody seeks help for depression.
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i don’t doubt you can build
one! but many people can’t do it themselves. so the ban won’t eliminate the threat, but it might reduce the threat. Of course it doesn’t address the ones that are already out there.

and of course you’re 100% correct on red flag laws, ripe for all kinds of abuse. i just don’t like the idea of doing nothing in response to burying an entire classroom of first graders. we ought to be able to respond by making SOME improvement somewhere, but i’m not claiming i know what that is.

i fully admit to having a blind spot on this issue. it’s heartbreaking. i had a golden retriever who was a certified pet therapy dog, we spent a few days in Sandy Hook after. It wasn’t the kind thing you forget.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i don’t doubt you can build
one! but many people can’t do it themselves. so the ban won’t eliminate the threat, but it might reduce the threat. Of course it doesn’t address the ones that are already out there.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

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Shhh. We don't want Pete seeing that easy trick.

I know there are these kinds of hacks that can be pulled off. Again, I'd just feel better if we could point to something, and say "there was a tragedy, and at least we learned something and took precautions to make it less likely the next tragedy will occur".

Maybe the best we can do is fine tune mental health laws. I have no idea. I know you already know what I mean....