Ukraine

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

paul's church maintains it's property so all churches must be bad...
...

That's literally his entire argument.

The question for me is, why bother. There is no answer, other than there's no fishing to be done yet...

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You called this before I heard a single person anywhere call it.

I was sure he was bluffing to strike a deal where we didn't let Ukraine in NATO. I was 100% wrong once again.

The likelihood and motive has been clear as day for years. I did not come up with any of this but I follow people smarter than me that have been warning of the increasing danger of this since 2008.

It merely depended on a sliding scale of reduced capability of the members of NATO, particularity the US and Germany, and the increased of capability of RUS/PRC. It also required the same inversion of will.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

When I donate my dues to my church and they build a gym it isn't benefiting poor people.

How's that you idiot?

poor people don't use gyms?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

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there's no fishing to be done yet...

soon...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Do you not think the administration or Nato didn't figure Putin was going to Invade they Knew .. but diplomacy must run its course

But again we get the unusual response from Republican and Conservatives "weakness " besides a military response I am not sure what they expect the U.S.A or the world to do besides what they did and are now doing ..

and none of them seem to be laying out What they would be doing .

Other than arming Ukraine earlier, I can't think of anything.

But again, Putin had some reason to not do this when Trump was president, and to feel like now is the time. Maybe he senses dementia and weakness like most people do, and that's what he's counting on.

I can't think of a reason why Putin is doing this now, that's not a criticism of Biden.

[wdmso]

12\23 I honestly think Putin was going to invade even if Trump won the election. due to Trump losing the election and with that lost went his free pass . He never Feared Trumps reaction. But now a NATO under a unified front he had to change gears . Being out of Afghanistan has only improved the US and NATO position to re deploy Troops and equipment…. And we have not treaty obligations with Ukraine
12\31

Back to Ukraine for a minute why is every conservatives talking head or Congress member cheering for Putin to invade Ukraine? Instead of getting behind the POTUS and show a United front towards Russia, when they know
Biden or Trump would have used force ..

Rep. Budd to Newsmax: Russian Aggression Due to 'Weakness' From Biden

that Russia would not be threatening to invade Ukraine if former President Donald Trump was still in office, attributing reports of their offensive to "weakness in the way that Biden has led."
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1/28 Gotta love the fact that Zelensky told Biden to STFU......that's awesome.

2-18 "Just because there's Russian buildup does not mean that we know or that there is a plan to actually invade," "I think this has just been an emotional push by the Americans

Grenell said Thursday during an appearance on Newsmax's "Spicer & Co."

[wdmso]

Trump told host Laura Ingraham. "In fact, some people are saying, 'Why didn't this take place over the last four years during our administration?' And it didn't for a very good reason and I'll explain that to you someday

LOL

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Again, maybe your church is self serving. That sounds like an issue for you.

The data clearly shows that conservatives care plenty about people after they are born.

But they consistently try to cut funding for child care when elected. Am I going too fast for you?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Trump told host Laura Ingraham. "In fact, some people are saying, 'Why didn't this take place over the last four years during our administration?' And it didn't for a very good reason and I'll explain that to you someday

LOL

Do you think Putin threw a dart at a calendar and decided to invade on whatever day it landed on?

Or is there a reason in his mind, which makes sense to him, as to why he did it now?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

For the second time, yes my church has meaningful expenses. Can you give me a list of charities that have zero expenses please?

Rent, utilities, logistics and infastructure and such cannot be paid for with hugs and fairy dust, I am sorry to break that to you, I assumed even you already knew that. Obviously I was wrong.

It goes beyond that you idiot. Am I going too fast for you?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

You're reading comprehension sucks.

But you're the idiot who constantly states that conservatives are more generous than liberals you idiot, not me or anyone else here.

Did anyone say it was you idiot?

Endowments are used to help keep tuiton down you idiot.

Their actions show it everyday. The idea that liberals want Blacks (and it is amazing how much you focus on blacks here - or use the word "urban" which to you means the same) to have more babies so they can "make" more money off the babies show loud and clear that you are a scummy person.

How's that you idiot?

Originally Posted by PaulS

So show me a study that says conservatives are more generous when it ISN"T self serving charities. That is what matters you idiot.

Originally Posted by PaulS

It goes beyond that you idiot. Am I going too fast for you?

Just wanted to save this so I have some solid examples of what adding constructive dialog to the conversation looks like.

Yeah, all Trumps fault the country is so divided
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

But they consistently try to cut funding for child care when elected. Am I going too fast for you?

unnecessary child care.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Just wanted to save this so I have some solid examples of what adding constructive dialog to the conversation looks like.

Yeah, all Trumps fault the country is so divided
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Remember TDF, I am the angry one.

[wdmso]

Rudy Giuliani to Newsmax: 'Incompetent' Biden Looks Like 'Weakling, Dope'

no criticism of Putin Playing to the GOP Base

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Do you think Putin threw a dart at a calendar and decided to invade on whatever day it landed on?

Or is there a reason in his mind, which makes sense to him, as to why he did it now?

its winter frozen ground good for Tanks no leaves on trees no concealment


But the I see you avoided what Trump said

I am still looking at what actions Trump or Republicans (besides the timing of Sanctions which themselves say wouldn't have stopped Him ) beyond Boots on the Ground would have stopped Him .. we have Trump's answer "Trump calls Russia-Ukraine crisis a 'European problem'" and in 2016 Trump He buys into Russian President Vladimir Putin's ridiculous theory that Ukraine is not a "real country. Ukraine as so universally corrupt that he Trumps paints Ukraine's new president, Volodymyr Zelensky, with this same brush of false allegations
and wait for it Trump didn't want Ukraine in NATO


I am convinced he Putin took these actions because Trump Lost the election . who would have given Putin what he wanted "No NATO in Ukraine " and other security guarantees



These Conservatives Are Defending Russia In Ukraine Crisis—And Trump Leads The Way

://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2022/02/23/these-conservatives-are-defending-russia-in-ukraine-crisis-and-trump-leads-the-way/?sh=dd2cfec78cf9

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Endowments are used to help keep tuiton down you idiot.

I looked it up.

Harvard's endowment is $53 billion.

It's annual tuition plus room and board is $74,528.

They have 23,000 kids.

They could not charge a penny for tuition for any of those kids, and the endowment wouldn't run out for decades, and that's if it earned zero interest.

Yeah, that endowment is really keeping tuition down, Paul, you sure showed me..

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

its winter frozen ground good for Tanks no leaves on trees no concealment


But the I see you avoided what Trump said

So there were no winters in Russia from 2017 - 2021? Because Trump caused global warming, right??!!

Trump is an idiot. Fair enough?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Just wanted to save this so I have some solid examples of what adding constructive dialog to the conversation looks like. Why should anyone here take his or your insults?

Yeah, all Trumps fault the country is so divided
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Feel free. But what do you add other than calling people dumb or trying to insult people with memes?

So what exactly do you add here?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Remember TDF, I am the angry one.

You are. Every post (slight exageration) has insults. Why do you think anyone here should take your classless insults?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I looked it up.

Harvard's endowment is $53 billion.

It's annual tuition plus room and board is $74,528.

They have 23,000 kids.

They could not charge a penny for tuition for any of those kids, and the endowment wouldn't run out for decades, and that's if it earned zero interest.

Yeah, that endowment is really keeping tuition down, Paul, you sure showed me..

Again, you demonstrate your lack of intelligence so I'll help you by not going so fast:



About a third of Harvard’s annual operating budget comes from the endowment; last year, it contributed around $1.7 billion to Harvard, or over a third of the University’s entire operating budget. That spending supports all the vital functions of the University, from professorships to the library collection to financial aid. Harvard’s 12 schools are funded by the endowment to different extents: The Faculty of Arts and Sciences, for example, receives about 50 percent of its funding from the endowment, while the School of Public Health—many of its expenses provided for by a $350 million gift from 2014—takes only about 15 percent of its budget from the endowment.


Edit - and remember when you couldn't understand how E. Warren's Harvard pay wasn't paid for by student's tuition bc it was an endowed chair. It was like you had no understanding of what an endowed chair was.

And let's not forget the idiotic statement about trying to compare church's charity (maybe 3-5% of donations?) to what say the American Red Cross provides - prob. 85% - 95% of donations.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

S
Feel free. But what do you add other than calling people dumb or trying to insult people with memes?

So what exactly do you add here?

The exact same quality of content that you do.

All you really do is come here to pick a fight with Jim, that's been pretty much it.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So there were no winters in Russia from 2017 - 2021? Because Trump caused global warming, right??!!

no but Trump was in Office ( And that's the issue because he was in office !)

I am convinced he Putin took these actions because Trump Lost the election . who would have given Putin what he wanted "No NATO in Ukraine " and other security guarantees

Trump is an idiot. Fair enough?

Global warming LOL

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman;[COLOR="Red"

[/COLOR]1223171]The exact same quality of content that you do. No, You hardly ever post anything at all related to the subject.

All you really do is come here to pick a fight with Jim, that's been pretty much it.
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no, I make a counter arguement. You pretty much only make insults.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Whatever Paul, you do you
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Again, you demonstrate your lack of intelligence so I'll help you by not going so fast:



About a third of Harvard’s annual operating budget comes from the endowment; last year, it contributed around $1.7 billion to Harvard, or over a third of the University’s entire operating budget. That spending supports all the vital functions of the University, from professorships to the library collection to financial aid. Harvard’s 12 schools are funded by the endowment to different extents: The Faculty of Arts and Sciences, for example, receives about 50 percent of its funding from the endowment, while the School of Public Health—many of its expenses provided for by a $350 million gift from 2014—takes only about 15 percent of its budget from the endowment.


Edit - and remember when you couldn't understand how E. Warren's Harvard pay wasn't paid for by student's tuition bc it was an endowed chair. It was like you had no understanding of what an endowed chair was.

And let's not forget the idiotic statement about trying to compare church's charity (maybe 3-5% of donations?) to what say the American Red Cross provides - prob. 85% - 95% of donations.

So it's OK when rich liberals donate to Harvard, which uses those donations to pay Liz Warren $400,000 a year to teach one class.

But when your church maintains its buildings, that means it's not really a worthwhile charity.

So what you're really saying is, "it's OK when liberals do it, only bad when conservatives do it".

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Whatever Paul, you do you
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and you do you -

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So it's OK when rich liberals donate to Harvard, which uses those donations to pay Liz Warren $400,000 a year to teach one class.They can give it to whomever the law allows. Just as you and I can give to a church.

But when your church maintains its buildings, that means it's not really a worthwhile charity.

So what you're really saying is, "it's OK when liberals do it, only bad when conservatives do it".

No clown, let me take it step by step bc you can't seem to grasp anything. I'll go nice and slow.

You frequently claim that cons. give more than liberals. I always tell you that lot of it has to do with their giving it to churches which is somewhat self serving. You claim churches provide charity and I showed you that the vast majority of $ donated to churches goes to the church and very little goes to actually benefit a non member vs the vast majority donated to Red Cross which goes to people in need.

So I never claimed giving $ to churches was bad like the snarky troll claimed and which you agreed with or "that it's OK when liberals do it, only bad when conservatives do it" but to show you that a lot of the donations is somewhat self serving and your repeated claiming that conserv. give more than liberals is wrong and they prob. give the same $%.

[Pete F.]

As usual, the poor dictim is crying about how liberals are hurting him.

In real terms, Harvard is a conservative place. Everyone who attends worked hard to get into there. Students like money and they like success. They place a great deal of focus on hard work and business connections. They understand the importance of preexisting institutions and don't attempt to alter that. Students at Harvard work within the current system; that is what conservatism means.

Of course if the standard bearer of what you claim is conservative america is a con man..........

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Whatever Paul, you do you
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Originally Posted by PaulS

and you do you -

I thought you guys were claiming to imitate Joe Rogan

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

no, I make a counter arguement.

that's an interesting description....