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03-01-2022, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Only an idiot would consider a no fly zone as helpful.
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I disagree 100%. Yesterday and today the talk is of the 40 mile convoy. Their progress could be stopped, dead in their tracks with a wing of A-10s or other NATO aircraft. (I am shocked the roads have not been destroyed by the UKR ahead of the advance.) This heavy convoy presents a perfect target. Mark my words, we will relish getting a second chance at a shot like this... The time is slipping away.
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03-01-2022, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
I disagree 100%. Yesterday and today the talk is of the 40 mile convoy. Their progress could be stopped, dead in their tracks with a wing of A-10s or other NATO aircraft. (I am shocked the roads have not been destroyed by the UKR ahead of the advance.) This heavy convoy presents a perfect target. Mark my words, we will relish getting a second chance at a shot like this... The time is slipping away.
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I had questioned why they hadn’t mined or dug up roads or placed barricades . But their leadership didn’t believe it was coming. They dropped the ball and now the want to be rescued by the west .
But sadly the loss of life in Ukraine will be horrible.! But if we or nato get involved it will jump 10 fold
Its a horrible way to look at it.
Yet it might be the responsible thing to do
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03-01-2022, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
I disagree 100%. Yesterday and today the talk is of the 40 mile convoy. Their progress could be stopped, dead in their tracks with a wing of A-10s or other NATO aircraft. (I am shocked the roads have not been destroyed by the UKR ahead of the advance.) This heavy convoy presents a perfect target. Mark my words, we will relish getting a second chance at a shot like this... The time is slipping away.
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Sounds like the convoy isn't moving very well at least for now. Reports of shortages of gas, food, morale is getting low and even some disabling their vehicles and walking away.
Saw a great video a guy took when he pulled up to a stopped armored personnel carrier in a town. He asks if they've broken down, the response no, we just ran out of gas. The driver asks if they need to be towed back to Russia and they just laughed.
John Bolton made a remark that a big reason for the timing of the invasion was simply that Russia wasn't ready. That seems clear.
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03-01-2022, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
Sounds like the convoy isn't moving very well at least for now. Reports of shortages of gas, food, morale is getting low and even some disabling their vehicles and walking away.
Saw a great video a guy took when he pulled up to a stopped armored personnel carrier in a town. He asks if they've broken down, the response no, we just ran out of gas. The driver asks if they need to be towed back to Russia and they just laughed.
John Bolton made a remark that a big reason for the timing of the invasion was simply that Russia wasn't ready. That seems clear.
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So if it's clear that Russia isn't ready, then why did they invade?
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03-01-2022, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
So if it's clear that Russia isn't ready, then why did they invade?
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it was the element of surprise in reverse...or something
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03-01-2022, 04:08 PM
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I heard hillary out lecturing on all things russia...good grief
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03-01-2022, 08:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by detbuch
So if it's clear that Russia isn't ready, then why did they invade?
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John Bolton : “The fact is that [Trump] barely knew where Ukraine was. He once asked John Kelly, his second chief of staff, if Finland were a part of Russia. It’s just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians.”
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03-02-2022, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
So if it's clear that Russia isn't ready, then why did they invade?
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Because his army was told to invade by Putin . You seem to think his generals have a lot of input and people stood up to Putin and said FYI boss were not ready. And he. Said okay
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03-02-2022, 07:48 AM
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I bet good spelling and coherent sentence structure is important when conveying military orders and communications.... 
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03-02-2022, 08:15 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by scottw
I bet good spelling and coherent sentence structure is important when conveying military orders and communications.... 
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A serious thread about a serious situation with global impact, leave it to you to do what you do best, petty juvenile posts are your MO.
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03-02-2022, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
A serious thread about a serious situation with global impact, leave it to you to do what you do best, petty juvenile posts are your MO.
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from the internet tough guy who thinks he's solving the world's problems on a website...
wait....aren't you the guy who only pops into this worthless place mock the stupidity of others for a few laughs? 
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03-02-2022, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
So if it's clear that Russia isn't ready, then why did they invade?
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Because Vladi told all his Generals and Leadership they would be greeted as liberators then his Generals and Leadership told Vladi they would be greeted as liberators and he believed them.
Greeted as liberators - heard that one before.
A lot of things don't make sense though. Are Russians really this bad? Such bad logistics? Keep in mind our logistics jumped through hoops to support tens of thousands of troops / units 10,000 miles away and across oceans yet Russia can't supply logistics to a country on it's border? An army moves on its stomach, right?
Why would Russia have lots of moves made by Territorial Guard Troops instead of their first line?
Why would Russia be handling comms with Baofengs you can get off Amazon?
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03-02-2022, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
A lot of things don't make sense though.
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^^^this...
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03-02-2022, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnR
Because Vladi told all his Generals and Leadership they would be greeted as liberators then his Generals and Leadership told Vladi they would be greeted as liberators and he believed them.
Greeted as liberators - heard that one before.
A lot of things don't make sense though. Are Russians really this bad? Such bad logistics? Keep in mind our logistics jumped through hoops to support tens of thousands of troops / units 10,000 miles away and across oceans yet Russia can't supply logistics to a country on it's border? An army moves on its stomach, right?
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The average Russian has no problems with Ukr. and in many cases are fighting their cousins/friends. Their hearts are not in it. Plus the Russians are prob. poorly equiped, poorly trained, treated badly, etc.
I think there is zero chance they invade Poland bc of NATO.
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03-02-2022, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
I think there is zero chance they invade Poland bc of NATO.
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depends on what his goal is and no one seems to know what that is....although I think he's hinted in the past
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03-02-2022, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulS
I think there is zero chance they invade Poland bc of NATO.
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unless he’s lost his mind.
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