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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Churches/private schools use prob. 3-5% of the donations they receive to provide help to others. Many other charities like save the children prob. give 84-95% of the donations they receive to help others.

If anyone wants to give $ to churches and schools bc they attend, it is somewhat self serving. You fail to acknowledge that in your constant rants that conserv. give "slightly" more $.

When you said private school, I assumed you meant religious school, as many of them are.

"Pls, point out where I said it is not really charity?"

You said this, Paul, in the same post for Gods sake..."If anyone wants to give $ to churches and schools bc they attend, it is somewhat self serving." Self-serving, isn't charity.

I can only speak to the Catholic Church. Every Sunday, my church has 2 collections, one for charity, one to go towards regular expenses associated with the church. The church has to pay utilities and buy food for the priests and pay maintenance on the buildings, and my church runs a school which is unbelievably expensive yet they only charge tuition of $5,000 for a school with 10 kids to a class which blows away public schools (which can spend 4x more per kid) on standardized tests. And anyone can enjoy the church, not just those who donate. Anyone can go to a mass and enjoy any spiritual benefits they derive, and that probably doesn't mean much to liberals these days, but it's meaningful to catholics.

Maybe the church you go to, uses all its donations for self-serving reasons, but that doesn't mean all churches do.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

When you said private school, I assumed you meant religious school, as many of them are.

"Pls, point out where I said it is not really charity?"

You said this, Paul, in the same post for Gods sake..."If anyone wants to give $ to churches and schools bc they attend, it is somewhat self serving." Self-serving, isn't charity.

I can only speak to the Catholic Church. Every Sunday, my church has 2 collections, one for charity, one to go towards regular expenses associated with the church. The church has to pay utilities and buy food for the priests and pay maintenance on the buildings. And anyone can enjoy the church, not just those who donate.

I never claimed it wasn't charity. I've always said people personally benefit from it. I feel better giving to save the children then I do for giving $ to my churches men club which is remodeling our meeting room.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I never claimed it wasn't charity. I've always said people personally benefit from it. I feel better giving to save the children then I do for giving $ to my churches men club which is remodeling our meeting room.

You said it's self serving. Giving that's self-serving, isn't really compatible with the spirit of charitable giving.

Paul, for the purposes of disproving everything Pete believes, we can exclude all religious-based giving from this conversation. If you exclude all that, it would still show that conservatives aren't the greedy, heartless nazis that Pete believes we all are.

"I feel better giving to save the children then I do for giving $ to my churches men club which is remodeling our meeting room."

So would I. But every charity has expenses it has to cover.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

You said it's self serving. Giving that's self-serving, isn't really compatible with the spirit of charitable giving.
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So isn't it self serving when someone gives $ for a new gym in a private school that no one other than the students who go there are going to be able to use it? or to a fundraiser to pay for the salary of a new music teacher?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

So isn't it self serving when someone gives $ for a new gym in a private school that no one other than the students who go there are going to be able to use it? or to a fundraiser to pay for the salary of a new music teacher?

it’s not purely self serving, no, because other students ( including those on full scholarships) can use it.

paul, liberals also make donations to ivy league schools which have endowments in the tens of billions. so if you’re going to ding conservatives because not every cent of tax deductible charity is feeding the poor, at least make the same adjustment to liberal donations which are equally frivolous.

again, my point isn’t that conservatives are superior. just that we aren’t anywhere near what that idiot lunatic thinks we are.
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[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

it’s not purely self serving, no, because other students ( including those on full scholarships) can use it.

paul, liberals also make donations to ivy league schools which have endowments in the tens of billions. so if you’re going to ding conservatives because not every cent of tax deductible charity is feeding the poor, at least make the same adjustment to liberal donations which are equally frivolous. I agree those donations are the same.

again, my point isn’t that conservatives are superior.
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but that is what you constantly post

"why are conservatives slightly more charitable
and generous than liberals"

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

but that is what you constantly post

"why are conservatives slightly more charitable
and generous than liberals"

i only post it in response to a liberal stating that all conservatives are bad uncaring, refusing to help the needy, etc.

there’s no way to make a case that conservatives are meaningfully less caring about the poor, than liberals.
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