you wont read these on any conservative media sites

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I don't know the whole truth of that, nor of what he wished. The texts don't show an unwillingness to stop the riot. They certainly show that the texters were appalled by it and had no part in creating them. As for Trump, maybe more texts will explicitly show that he approved of the riot and wanted it to continue. Until then, you're entitled to your narrative.

Until then, you're entitled to your narrative.

It’s really not rocket science
They wanted to overturn the legitimate election. Via lies unethical and questionable legal interpretations. They feed the Maga world red meat lie after lie from before during and after the election Trump refused to conduct a transfer of power in a timely fashion they called for the Maga universe to appear for the stop the steal rally then instigated them with more lying and whipped up the crowd

Then the Dogs many who heard their marching orders for months show up with helmets body armor zip ties bear spray batons to take back what Trump and Republicans had told them was taken from them!

Then the chain broke and the hounds were off already with the scent of keeping Trump in office

Only then did the handlers get concerned. They wanted a clean coup some twisted legal version

And just because it doesn’t succeed doesn’t make it some made up narrative

As for Trump, maybe more texts will explicitly show that he approved of the riot and wanted it to continue

A brave statement knowing 100% he’ll never testify under oath
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[Got Stripers]

"Those texts indicate that they sincerely believed that the election was fraudulent and that they had proof that it was."

If they had the proof, the election would probably already have been reversed, yet with all the litigation to date nada, zip, nothing to dispute with Trumps own AG's statement it was a fair election.

Just because those texts Meadows was willing to release (could it be he cherry picked those to make everyone believe they were all innocent and not complicit) indicate at the time they were not happy with the violence and capitol breach; doesn't mean they weren't part of a plan to reverse the election. It doesn't mean some didn't do as Trump did, claim it was stolen and suggest everyone attend and eventually march on the capitol. I think Meadows stopped cooperating as he knows the rest is going to show many were involved in planning the nullification of the results and the magical green bay sweep.

To suggest Trump wasn't part of getting Jan6th to that level is ridiculous, he wanted them there and he isn't a dummy, he knew what groups were coming. Just because he was only driving the car and claims he had no knowledge his buddies were robbing the bank, doesn't mean he is innocent. Trump is also the perfect mob boss, he gets everyone else to do his dirty work and then he sat back and watched the house burn down, only suggesting it stop after the damage had been done.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

"Those texts indicate that they sincerely believed that the election was fraudulent and that they had proof that it was."

If they had the proof, the election would probably already have been reversed, yet with all the litigation to date nada, zip, nothing to dispute with Trumps own AG's statement it was a fair election.

Like you, they had an unproven opinion that they firmly believed.

Just because those texts Meadows was willing to release (could it be he cherry picked those to make everyone believe they were all innocent and not complicit) indicate at the time they were not happy with the violence and capitol breach; doesn't mean they weren't part of a plan to reverse the election. It doesn't mean some didn't do as Trump did, claim it was stolen and suggest everyone attend and eventually march on the capitol. I think Meadows stopped cooperating as he knows the rest is going to show many were involved in planning the nullification of the results and the magical green bay sweep.

It doesn't mean that what you think, your opinion or conjecture, is true.

To suggest Trump wasn't part of getting Jan6th to that level is ridiculous, he wanted them there and he isn't a dummy, he knew what groups were coming. Just because he was only driving the car and claims he had no knowledge his buddies were robbing the bank, doesn't mean he is innocent. Trump is also the perfect mob boss, he gets everyone else to do his dirty work and then he sat back and watched the house burn down, only suggesting it stop after the damage had been done.

And your Proof (not your opinion) is? Without that proof, your opinion can be considered, as you put it, ridiculous.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by detbuch

And your Proof (not your opinion) is? Without that proof, your opinion can be considered, as you put it, ridiculous.

Well if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it's not a big stretch to come to the conclusion it's a friggin duck. But you keep telling yourself the evidence just doesn't support that conclusion and I'll keep believing the friggin duck had a lot to do with how it happened, why it happened and why it wasn't shut down sooner.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Well if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it's not a big stretch to come to the conclusion it's a friggin duck. But you keep telling yourself the evidence just doesn't support that conclusion and I'll keep believing the friggin duck had a lot to do with how it happened, why it happened and why it wasn't shut down sooner.

For you it looks like a duck. To me your duck looks pretty lame.

[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by detbuch

For you it looks like a duck. To me your duck looks pretty lame.

Finally we agree Trump is a lame excuse for a human or even a duck, not to mention a man, businessman or president. Even he knows it as he continues to claim he took a test to confirm his brilliance, sadly a toddler with average intelligence could pass that test, thankfully for him he threatened every school he ever attended should they ever release his records. The sad thing is the GOP leadership knows what he is, but the weak minded supporters of Trump have them biting their tongues; oops you mean they have recordings of our private conversations.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Finally we agree Trump is a lame excuse for a human or even a duck, not to mention a man, businessman or president. Even he knows it as he continues to claim he took a test to confirm his brilliance, sadly a toddler with average intelligence could pass that test, thankfully for him he threatened every school he ever attended should they ever release his records. The sad thing is the GOP leadership knows what he is, but the weak minded supporters of Trump have them biting their tongues; oops you mean they have recordings of our private conversations.

Nah . . . I was referring to YOUR duck. I don't see it or Trump the way you do. Obviously, a whole lot of folks don't see it the way you do. Otherwise he wouldn't have been elected in 2016. And though he lost in 2020, a whole lot of people voted for him. A "lame excuse for a human . . . a duck . . . or a man" would find it extremely difficult (impossible) to do what Trump has done. Maybe you idealize humanity as being something far more noble than it is.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Until then, you're entitled to your narrative.

It’s really not rocket science
They wanted to overturn the legitimate election. Via lies unethical and questionable legal interpretations. They feed the Maga world red meat lie after lie from before during and after the election Trump refused to conduct a transfer of power in a timely fashion they called for the Maga universe to appear for the stop the steal rally then instigated them with more lying and whipped up the crowd

Then the Dogs many who heard their marching orders for months show up with helmets body armor zip ties bear spray batons to take back what Trump and Republicans had told them was taken from them!

Then the chain broke and the hounds were off already with the scent of keeping Trump in office

Only then did the handlers get concerned. They wanted a clean coup some twisted legal version

And just because it doesn’t succeed doesn’t make it some made up narrative

As for Trump, maybe more texts will explicitly show that he approved of the riot and wanted it to continue

A brave statement knowing 100% he’ll never testify under oath
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You're right. Your theories are not rocket science. Rocket, or any science, requires more than (as in your theory) conjecture and supposition which lead to making an unproven narrative comprised of statements as if they must somehow be true because, to you, they appear to make some kind of immutable truth.

But you are entitled to your narrative. Don't be flummoxed that others are not persuaded by it. Some people, especially as in actual courts of justice, require more than made up narrative presented as fact.