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		|  05-11-2022, 07:19 AM | #1 |  
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Here are more Republican ethics and morality on display
 , the Michigan state senator, a Democrat, read an email accusing her of "grooming" children. The email was sent by a fellow senator, Republican Lana Theis, who was soliciting funds from her supporters for her reelection campaign.
 
 In that email, Theis wrote that children are "under assault in our schools" by what she called "progressive mobs trying to steal our children's innocence."
 She accused me by name of grooming and wanting to sexualize kindergartners,"
 
 On his Fox News program, Tucker Carlson claimed that California teachers are trying to "indoctrinate schoolchildren" about sexual and gender identity. "They're grooming 7-year-olds and talking to 7-year-olds about their sex lives," he said.
 
 On her Fox News show, Laura Ingraham accused the Walt Disney Co. of "pushing a sexual agenda" on children. "This isn't programming. This is propaganda for grooming," she said.
 
 And U.S. Senate candidate J.D. Vance of Ohio defended the term on Fox News, saying, "If you don't want to be called a groomer, don't try to sexualize 6-, 7-year-old children."
 
 And of course if you’re pro choice you are pro Murder.
 
 Love this one  The viability requirement is totally made up,
 
 That’s the conservative answer to anything they disagree with ..   but if they agree then they will accept anything that’s made up.  See above examples of open the Bible
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 |  a women’s family center in Wisconsin was firebombed this week.  mobs are gathering outside theorists homes of scotus justices. And liberals are disrupting catholic masses.  the liberal way - give me what him want, or I’ll throw a tantrum.
 
Viability isn’t a made up concept.  What is made up, is suggestingbthatvsokeonebisnt human unless they are viable.
 
I’ll ask again, how would you define it?   no 2 babies are identical, they don’t reach viability at the same time, so how would you define it?? at what point in pregnancy would you ban elective abortions?  
 
i keep asking, you keep 
dodging…
 
a michigan state senator who no one has ever heard of, that’s a great example wayne.
 
you criticize tucker carlson for going after CA teachers, but you didn’t offer a syllable about why he was wrong.  what if he was right?  
 
Oh!  and the new press secretary said they trump stole the 2016 election from hilary.  so it’s ok when democrats lie about elections being stolen?  
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		|  05-11-2022, 07:46 AM | #2 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  a women’s family center in Wisconsin was firebombed this week.  mobs are gathering outside theorists homes of scotus justices. And liberals are disrupting catholic masses.  the liberal way - give me what him want, or I’ll throw a tantrum.
 Viability isn’t a made up concept.  What is made up, is suggestingbthatvsokeonebisnt human unless they are viable.
 
 I’ll ask again, how would you define it?   no 2 babies are identical, they don’t reach viability at the same time, so how would you define it?? at what point in pregnancy would you ban elective abortions?
 
 i keep asking, you keep
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 a michigan state senator who no one has ever heard of, that’s a great example wayne.
 
 you criticize tucker carlson for going after CA teachers, but you didn’t offer a syllable about why he was wrong.  what if he was right?
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Jim try some reading out side your bubble 
 
Doctors often consider fetal viability the point at which a baby can be resuscitated at delivery and can survive without significant morbidity. Many times this age of viability is about 24 weeks gestation.
 
But I understand you live in the world of alternative facts 
https://www.verywellfamily.com/prema...bility-2371529 
Why would I suggest Tucker was right .. how is that even a topic a rational person would entertain 
 
But a cult-member like your self you’re willing to entertain the idea 
 
I would respect people if their stance was just we don’t like the concept of abortion..  but that’s not it the anti Abortion crowd is more about virtue signaling. 
 
Which is just my view of them .  I thought I would rationalize it the way Conservatives do..  base it on my feeling , 
 
the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.
 
Ya know the thing liberals are accuse of all the time 
 
They care about the unborn until. It’s born than it’s time to support the next unborn child and the cycle continues..  but these morality zealots , have no intention of stopping with abortion
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		|  05-11-2022, 08:08 AM | #3 |  
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Jim try some reading out side your bubble  
Doctors often consider fetal viability the point at which a baby can be resuscitated at delivery and can survive without significant morbidity. Many times this age of viability is about 24 weeks gestation.
 
But I understand you live in the world of alternative facts 
https://www.verywellfamily.com/prema...bility-2371529 
Why would I suggest Tucker was right .. how is that even a topic a rational person would entertain 
 
But a cult-member like your self you’re willing to entertain the idea 
 
I would respect people if their stance was just we don’t like the concept of abortion..  but that’s not it the anti Abortion crowd is more about virtue signaling. 
 
Which is just my view of them .  I thought I would rationalize it the way Conservatives do..  base it on my feeling , 
 
the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.
 
Ya know the thing liberals are accuse of all the time 
 
They care about the unborn until. It’s born than it’s time to support the next unborn child and the cycle continues..  but these morality zealots , have no intention of stopping with abortion
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |  "Doctors often consider fetal viability the point at which a baby can be resuscitated at delivery"
 
OK, I said it twice, and you didn't grasp it.  I'll try to use smaller words.
 
I know what viability means.  But who says viability = being a human being?
 
Is that really going too fast for you?
 
"Why would I suggest Tucker was right"
 
But you offered ZERO evidence that he was wrong.  Is he wrong for criticizing CA teachers?  It's NEVER OK to criticize CA teachers? |  
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		|  05-12-2022, 03:01 PM | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  "Doctors often consider fetal viability the point at which a baby can be resuscitated at delivery"
 OK, I said it twice, and you didn't grasp it.  I'll try to use smaller words.
 
 I know what viability means.  But who says viability = being a human being?
 
 Is that really going too fast for you?
 
 "Why would I suggest Tucker was right"
 
 But you offered ZERO evidence that he was wrong.  Is he wrong for criticizing CA teachers?  It's NEVER OK to criticize CA teachers?
 |  But who says viability = being a human being?
 
Normal people ! 
 
But you offered ZERO evidence that he was wrong. 
 
In America Jim not sure if this is new to you but it’s not my responsibility to prove Tucker wrong it’s Tuckers responsibility to prove he’s right .  Not just make baseless accusations.. while providing no evidence. And ism sure you believe him so what’s to argue ?
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		|  05-12-2022, 07:43 PM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  But who says viability = being a human being?
 Normal people !
 
 But you offered ZERO evidence that he was wrong.
 
 In America Jim not sure if this is new to you but it’s not my responsibility to prove Tucker wrong it’s Tuckers responsibility to prove he’s right .  Not just make baseless accusations.. while providing no evidence. And ism sure you believe him so what’s to argue ?
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to be human, explain your view on people in comas.  
 
you can’t win this, because there’s zero logic to your position.
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		|  05-13-2022, 03:06 AM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  if it’s normal to say you need to be viableto be human, explain your view on people in comas.
 
 you can’t win this, because there’s zero logic to your position.
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If that’s the logic I am up against! I surrender   .
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		|  05-13-2022, 05:08 AM | #7 |  
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  explain your view on people in comas. 
 
 
 
 If that’s the logic I am up against! I surrender   .
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 |  you said viability is the prerequisite for being a human being, did you not?  
 
Let’s just stick to babies then.  How do you know when a unborn baby is viable?  is it the same stage for every baby?  
 
it’s something that obviously cannot be determined with any kind of accuracy.  It’s an unknown, a mystery.  whatever day you’d pick, makes zero sense, because the baby is no different than it was the day before. nothing spectacular happens in any one day.  
 
if it’s “my body my choice” why should that right be forfeited after viability?  it’s still a decision regarding the woman’s body.  
 
too late to surrender,, let’s let it play out in november.
 
Do you realize you’ve never obverse a syllable about why it’s constitutionally incorrect to overturn Roe and let states decide?
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