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		|  05-16-2022, 07:37 PM | #1 |  
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				 | [QUOTE=Raider Ronnie;1226860] 
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  So, vigilantism is now ok in America 
 
 Sounds like you condone thousands of thugs looting stores & other businesses, burning cities to the ground.
 |  No, it sounds like I believe in the rule of law, not someone with a gun being judge and jury. 
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		|  05-16-2022, 07:59 PM | #2 |  
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				 | [QUOTE=Pete F.;1226862] 
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					Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie  No, it sounds like I believe in the rule of law, not someone with a gun being judge and jury.
 The difference is important
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 |  Rittenhouse believes in the rule of law.  Self defense is legal.  He was not convicted of breaking any law.
 
Yet, you seem to be a judge and jury about him being a vigilante.  You sound like an authoritarian, not like a believer in the rule of law. |  
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		|  05-16-2022, 08:09 PM | #3 |  
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				 | [QUOTE=detbuch;1226864] 
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  Rittenhouse believes in the rule of law.  Self defense is legal.  He was not convicted of breaking any law.
 
 Yet, you seem to be a judge and jury about him being a vigilante.  You sound like an authoritarian, not like a believer in the rule of law.
 |  If you travel across state borders out of your normal residence, bring a weapon and claim to be defending you’re a vigilante. 
Spin it as you see fit
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		|  05-16-2022, 08:41 PM | #4 |  
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					Originally Posted by detbuch  If you travel across state borders out of your normal residence, bring a weapon and claim to be defending you’re a vigilante.
 Spin it as you see fit
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 |  He didn't bring a weapon across state lines.  The weapon was stored in his friend's house in Kenosha, not in his home in Illinois.  And he legally possessed it at the time of the shooting.  And he had a part time job as well as a friend and relatives in Kenosha so spent a lot of time there.  It was not unusual or unexpected that he was in Kenosha.
 
You're the one doing all the spinning.  I'm strictly speaking within the bounds of the law.  It might be more accurate to say that you are lying.  Not unusual for you to do. |  
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		|  05-16-2022, 08:43 PM | #5 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  He didn't bring a weapon across state lines.  The weapon was stored in his friend's house in Kenosha, not in his home in Illinois.  And he legally possessed it at the time of the shooting.
 
 You're the one doing all the spinning.  I'm strictly speaking within the bounds of the law.  It might be more accurate to say that you are lying.  Not unusual for you to do.
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lying, because the truth doesn’t tell his story.
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		|  05-17-2022, 12:40 PM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  He didn't bring a weapon across state lines.  The weapon was stored in his friend's house in Kenosha, not in his home in Illinois.  And he legally possessed it at the time of the shooting.  And he had a part time job as well as a friend and relatives in Kenosha so spent a lot of time there.  It was not unusual or unexpected that he was in Kenosha.
 
 You're the one doing all the spinning.  I'm strictly speaking within the bounds of the law.  It might be more accurate to say that you are lying.  Not unusual for you to do.
 |  vig·i·lan·te 
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a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate. |  
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		|  05-17-2022, 02:23 PM | #7 |  
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					Originally Posted by detbuch  vig·i·lan·te
 /ˌvijəˈlan(t)ē/
 
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 a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate.
 |  Self defense, and defense of private property is not vigilantism.  And sometimes, somewhere, legal agencies are inadequate, or even corrupt, or even the problem.
 
Of course, there's the tried and true legal way--wait for the crime to be committed, then call the police.  Works really well when you're being attacked. |  
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		|  05-17-2022, 02:45 PM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  Self defense, and defense of private property is not vigilantism.  And sometimes, somewhere, legal agencies are inadequate, or even corrupt, or even the problem.
 
 Of course, there's the tried and true legal way--wait for the crime to be committed, then call the police.  Works really well when you're being attacked.
 |  BLM protesters were “rioters”
 
January 6th insurrectionists were “peaceful tourists”
 
Ashley Babbitt was a “martyr”
 
George Floyd was a “thug”
 
Kyle Rittenhouse was a “hero”
 
The common theme is always the same: vilify the oppressed, glorify the powerful
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		|  05-17-2022, 08:29 AM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie  No, it sounds like I believe in the rule of law, not someone with a gun being judge and jury.
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You believe in rule of law ??????? 
Are #^&#^&#^&#^&ing brain dead ?????? 
Where is the “rule of law with all these cities being burnt to the ground ???????  
This #^&#^&#^&#^&ing administration makes police & law enforcement STAND DOWN while these thugs loot & destroy businesses & cities.    
You should do yourself a favor & eat some lead !!!
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		|  05-17-2022, 08:37 AM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie  You should do yourself a favor & eat some lead !!!
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 |  You are a classless POS.  
 
Maybe you should eat some lead - we'll find someone else to plow our streets.
 
Another low for this forum.  John you should be proud.
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		|  05-17-2022, 08:50 AM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by PaulS  You are a classless POS.  
 Maybe you should eat some lead - we'll find someone else to plow our streets.
 
 Another low for this forum.  John you should be proud.
 |  Everything Pete has ever said, is OK with you.  But you tattle about the conservatives.  Politically selective outrage, is fake outrage.
 
John didn't do anything. |  
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		|  05-17-2022, 08:52 AM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  Everything Pete has ever said, Has he ever said anything so vile as what RR says?is OK with you.  But you tattle about the conservatives.  Politically selective outrage[COLOR="Red"]How is this - go fu ck youself. , is fake outrage.
 John didn't do anything.He lets it go on
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		|  05-17-2022, 09:04 AM | #13 |  
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					Originally Posted by PaulS  nm |  I don't know what nm means.
 
He lets it go on. He also lets Pete say some pretty outrageous stuff, which interestingly doesn't bother you.
 
How come you only get offended when conservatives say offensive things? |  
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		|  05-17-2022, 09:18 AM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  I don't know what nm means.
 He lets it go on. He also lets Pete say some pretty outrageous stuff, which interestingly doesn't bother you.
 
 How come you only get offended when conservatives say offensive things?
 |  Do you want to hold up RR as a conservative?
 
Saying 'eat lead" is far different than anything else I have seen here.  
 
I don't read every post but Pete seems to get far more than he dishes out. |  
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		|  05-18-2022, 06:28 AM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by PaulS  You are a classless POS.  
 Maybe you should eat some lead - we'll find someone else to plow our streets.
 
 Another low for this forum.  John you should be proud.
 |  I think he has already eaten lead as a child and in adulthood he has moved on to a lighter alternative, he loves his aluminum hats now. |  
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		|  05-17-2022, 12:33 PM | #16 |  
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				 | [QUOTE=Raider Ronnie;1226883] 
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  
 
 You believe in rule of law ???????
 Are #^&#^&#^&#^&ing brain dead ??????
 Where is the “rule of law with all these cities being burnt to the ground ???????
 This #^&#^&#^&#^&ing administration makes police & law enforcement STAND DOWN while these thugs loot & destroy businesses & cities.
 You should do yourself a favor & eat some lead !!!
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 |  What city was burnt to the ground??? 
Are you referring to this?
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