Maxine Waters: “The hell with the Supreme Court. We will defy them”.

[Pete F.]

When you read Clarence Thomas’s concurrence, where he calls into question many other rights based on the fundamental right to privacy, remember that he testified unequivocally in his confirmation hearings that there is a right to privacy in the Constitution.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

When you read Clarence Thomas’s concurrence, where he calls into question many other rights based on the fundamental right to privacy, remember that he testified unequivocally in his confirmation hearings that there is a right to privacy in the Constitution.
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The other opinion very explicitly says that the ruling doesn’t apply to rights other then abortion.

There’s a solid legal
regiment for gay marriage and interracial marriage, the right not to be discriminated against.

There’s no defensible legal argument that a woman has a constitutional right to an abortion. it was a stupid legal decision.

You think it’s better for 9 unelected judges to decide these things for all of us, rather then we getting to decide through our state officials? you’re opposed to democracy?

Pete i’m a conservative living in CT. I made peace a king time ago with the family t that i won’t always get what i want. I do what i can, and i don’t even lose any sleep over it. I don’t like it obviously, but Im fine with it. It’s called democracy.

do you have any comment at all, about Maxine Waters’ language?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The other opinion very explicitly says that the ruling doesn’t apply to rights other then abortion.

There’s a solid legal
regiment for gay marriage and interracial marriage, the right not to be discriminated against.

There’s no defensible legal argument that a woman has a constitutional right to an abortion. it was a stupid legal decision.

You think it’s better for 9 unelected judges to decide these things for all of us, rather then we getting to decide through our state officials? you’re opposed to democracy?

Pete i’m a conservative living in CT. I made peace a king time ago with the family t that i won’t always get what i want. I do what i can, and i don’t even lose any sleep over it. I don’t like it obviously, but Im fine with it. It’s called democracy.

do you have any comment at all, about Maxine Waters’ language?
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She’s far more of a realist than you.

Things have changed a lot since 1973. As a practical matter, it's a lot harder now for the government to block access to abortion.

So if states want to stop abortions – and they do – they're going to have to get a lot more invasive, and a lot more draconian, to do it.

The advocates of enforced gestation have at long last succeeded in stripping away Roe's Constitutional protections – only to find themselves in a world where, even after it's been outlawed, abortion care will still be available with a quick google search and a few mouse clicks.

Over half of all abortions are already done with medication that can be sent through the mail.

So, once abortions are made illegal, but most who seek abortion care are able to receive it anyway, are states like Texas and Georgia going to simply say, "oh well, we tried"?

To combat this, states are going to have to greatly expand the reach of their abortion prohibitions and the severity of the resulting punishments.

And they will likely try new ways to detect and investigate miscarriages – because every miscarriage is now a potential illegal act.

And that’s why MAGA states are no longer safe for women. Even women who would personally never have an abortion and oppose it. 1/4 of pregnancies end in miscarriage. Women of child bearing age are at risk of being treated like criminals or accused of a criminal act.

Don’t claim it won’t, because it already has happened.

This radical court will strip the right to privacy from every American eventually.

As far as your claim that the left is coming apart, Americans are coming together to deal with this radical MAGA court.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

She’s far more of a realist than you.

Things have changed a lot since 1973. As a practical matter, it's a lot harder now for the government to block access to abortion.

So if states want to stop abortions – and they do – they're going to have to get a lot more invasive, and a lot more draconian, to do it.

The advocates of enforced gestation have at long last succeeded in stripping away Roe's Constitutional protections – only to find themselves in a world where, even after it's been outlawed, abortion care will still be available with a quick google search and a few mouse clicks.

Over half of all abortions are already done with medication that can be sent through the mail.

So, once abortions are made illegal, but most who seek abortion care are able to receive it anyway, are states like Texas and Georgia going to simply say, "oh well, we tried"?

To combat this, states are going to have to greatly expand the reach of their abortion prohibitions and the severity of the resulting punishments.

And they will likely try new ways to detect and investigate miscarriages – because every miscarriage is now a potential illegal act.

And that’s why MAGA states are no longer safe for women. Even women who would personally never have an abortion and oppose it. 1/4 of pregnancies end in miscarriage. Women of child bearing age are at risk of being treated like criminals or accused of a criminal act.

Don’t claim it won’t, because it already has happened.

This radical court will strip the right to privacy from every American eventually.

As far as your claim that the left is coming apart, Americans are coming together to deal with this radical MAGA court.
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Jim’s forgotten that I answered him days ago, meanwhile he’s melting down because he found an editorial and watched a video.

Now the extreme MAGA court has made it so the Blackstone River can run colors again and probably hastened the end of the world by removing clean air restrictions.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Jim’s forgotten that I answered him days ago, meanwhile he’s melting down because he found an editorial and watched a video.

Now the extreme MAGA court has made it so the Blackstone River can run colors again and probably hastened the end of the world by removing clean air restrictions.
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i was talking with wdmso.

what could i possibly have to melt down over? i’ve never been sitting as pretty, politically speaking, as i am right now. The GOP is poised to steamroll in november.

i converted almost all my holdings to cash at a very fortunate time, and the markets are dropping, and this is obviously just the beginning, as consumer spending hasnt meaningfully decreased yet, but it will. When the SP500 gets down to 3500, I’ll start getting back in, and i’ll do great eventually.

i’m poised to benefit nicely ( politically and economically) from current events, i have very little to melt down over.

another scotus decision today that’s a victory for democracy. If the feds want to impose intrusive mandates, those now have to come from congress ( where obviously they should come from), not from unelected beaurocrats. The EPA doesn’t have the right to make huge policy decisions that change our lives. Congress does that

I can see the headlines, “Supreme Court hates the environment! Read all about it!!”.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i was talking with wdmso.

what could i possibly have to melt down over? i’ve never been sitting as pretty, politically speaking, as i am right now. The GOP is poised to steamroll in november.

i converted almost all my holdings to cash at a very fortunate time, and the markets are dropping, and this is obviously just the beginning, as consumer spending hasnt meaningfully decreased yet, but it will. When the SP500 gets down to 3500, I’ll start getting back in, and i’ll do great eventually.

i’m poised to benefit nicely ( politically and economically) from current events, i have very little to melt down over.

another scotus decision today that’s a victory for democracy. If the feds want to impose intrusive mandates, those now have to come from congress ( where obviously they should come from), not from unelected beaurocrats. The EPA doesn’t have the right to make huge policy decisions that change our lives. Congress does that

I can see the headlines, “Supreme Court hates the environment! Read all about it!!”.
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Kagan, dissenting: “The Court appoints itself—instead of Congress or the expert agency—the decision- maker on climate policy. I cannot think of many things more frightening.”
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