Maxine Waters: “The hell with the Supreme Court. We will defy them”.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Moving the goal posts again

I thought it was about how life is precious

Now it’s about due process

Jim what I posted is not my what I believe it’s just a contradiction in red states who hate abortion but embrace the death penalty wanting it both ways. I belive in the right to abortion and the death penalty

Iam not conflicted
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the constitution says that life cannot be denied without due process. abortion is an obvious violation. the death penalty is clearly in keeping with that.

the death penalty is explicitly constitutional. doesn’t mean it’s ethical, i believe it’s not ethical, but you cannot even argue that it’s unconstitutional.

with abortion (again) if you believe the baby is alive, then killing it without due process, is irrefutably unconstitutional.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the constitution says that life cannot be denied without due process. abortion is an obvious violation. the death penalty is clearly in keeping with that.

the death penalty is explicitly constitutional. doesn’t mean it’s ethical, i believe it’s not ethical, but you cannot even argue that it’s unconstitutional.

with abortion (again) if you believe the baby is alive, then killing it without due process, is irrefutably unconstitutional.
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the constitution says that life cannot be denied without due process.

Those goal posts must be powered by V8s they move so fast

Where in the constitution is a fetus mentioned or considered an citizen
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Where in the constitution is a fetus mentioned or considered an citizen
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Nowhere. It's not mentioned anywhere.

Which means, like abortion, the question of the status of the baby gets decided by the states.

Game. Set. Match.

Boy, did you walk into that one and lob me a softball.

On what basis is there another stage of development that makes more sense to call it a person. Conception is the one moment when something spectacular happens, when something gets created that literally wasn’t there a second ago.

if you pick, say 15 weeks, there’s no logic to it. the baby is no different on the last day of the 14th week, than it is on the first day of the 15th week. But it’s sure different before and after the moment of conception.

I think about this exact issue a lot, and i’d be genuinely curious to hear your reasoning why you’d pick a point other than conception to call it a person.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Nowhere. It's not mentioned anywhere.

Which means, like abortion, the question of the status of the baby gets decided by the states.

Game. Set. Match.

Boy, did you walk into that one and lob me a softball.

On what basis is there another stage of development that makes more sense to call it a person. Conception is the one moment when something spectacular happens, when something gets created that literally wasn’t there a second ago.

if you pick, say 15 weeks, there’s no logic to it. the baby is no different on the last day of the 14th week, than it is on the first day of the 15th week. But it’s sure different before and after the moment of conception.

I think about this exact issue a lot, and i’d be genuinely curious to hear your reasoning why you’d pick a point other than conception to call it a person.

Show me where concealed carry or open carry is in the constitution

But this same Court magically found it. And told STATEs you can’t pass a law requiring people justify why they need to carried a concealed weapon .. yep common sense gun laws


Justice Clarence Thomas, says that it is a constitutional right to carry a weapon in public for self-defense purposes.

Ya ok
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Show me where concealed carry or open carry is in the constitution

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bear

verb uses

(bɛər IPA Pronunciation Guide )
Word forms: bears, bearing, bore, borne

1. TRANSITIVE VERB
If you bear something somewhere, you carry it there or take it there.
[literary]
They bore the oblong hardwood box into the kitchen and put it on the table.

2. TRANSITIVE VERB
If you bear something such as a weapon, you hold it or carry it with you.
[formal]

...the constitutional right to bear arms.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Show me where concealed carry or open carry is in the constitution

But this same Court magically found it. And told STATEs you can’t pass a law requiring people justify why they need to carried a concealed weapon .. yep common sense gun laws


Justice Clarence Thomas, says that it is a constitutional right to carry a weapon in public for self-defense purposes.

Ya ok
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so you’re not going to answer.
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