Kansas abortion vote set for Aug. 2

[wdmso]

It’s funny I have said this should happen but of course the Republicans can’t help themselves they are so dishonest the vote isn’t going to happen during the general election nope

Republicans in the state legislature placed the abortion measure on the ballot as a special election alongside the previously scheduled primary, where traditionally only party-affiliated voters are allowed to vote. Many of the state’s unaffiliated voters — about 30 percent of the electorate — may not be aware they can vote this time, , a voter advocacy group, who called the move “blatantly anti-democratic.”

University of Kansas law professor Stephen McAllister, a former clerk for Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas who served as the Trump-appointed U.S. attorney for Kansas, said that they are being disingenuous, and the real goal of the amendment is to pave the way for the Republican-led legislature to pass an outright abortion ban in its next session in January.

Just another example of the lack honesty of Republicans and commitment to free and fair elections.

Who are cowards to not hold the vote during a General election ..

[Jim in CT]

you never heard of a referendum?

it’s undemocratic to let the people
vote for themselves? that’s the textbook definition of democratic.


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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you never heard of a referendum?

it’s undemocratic to let the people
vote for themselves? that’s the textbook definition of democratic.


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Then put it on the general ballot in November when turnout is likely more robust….
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Then put it on the general ballot in November when turnout is likely more robust….
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are they keeping it a secret? is that what you think? wdmso found out about it.


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[RIROCKHOUND]

No, it’s not a secret, but they are banking on lower turnout, dominated by older, more conservative voters. As you like to say, tell me that’s wrong and why they can’t put it on the general ballot in November.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

No, it’s not a secret, but they are banking on lower turnout, dominated by older, more conservative voters. As you like to say, tell me that’s wrong and why they can’t put it on the general ballot in November.
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they also have early voting underway already. who does that favor? if you think abortion is infanticide, there’s urgency to having the vote asap. i’d want it today. isnt there some validity to that?

can i ask you a sincere question? i saw Faucci on tv, he was being grilled about the effect of covid vaccines on women’s menstrual cycles, Faucci admitted there was concern, and said “we need to study it more.”

isn’t that the kind of thing you study, before essentially forcing everyone to get 3 doses of the drug?


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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

they also have early voting underway already. who does that favor? if you think abortion is infanticide, there’s urgency to having the vote asap. i’d want it today. isnt there some validity to that?

can i ask you a sincere question? i saw Faucci on tv, he was being grilled about the effect of covid vaccines on women’s menstrual cycles, Faucci admitted there was concern, and said “we need to study it more.”

isn’t that the kind of thing you study, before essentially forcing everyone to get 3 doses of the drug?


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444 deaths from Covid today in the USA.
We are just seeing the effects of long Covid.
Just how prolife are you?
Only fetuses count?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

444 deaths from Covid today in the USA.
We are just seeing the effects of long Covid.
Just how prolife are you?
Only fetuses count?
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i asked about the effect on menstruation. i didn’t see you offer a syllable on that topic.
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[Pete F.]

https://youtu.be/faTNMTVsgAA
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

https://youtu.be/faTNMTVsgAA
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so you can’t make
me wrong, but you can’t bring yourself to say it.

jerk.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i asked about the effect on menstruation. i didn’t see you offer a syllable on that topic.
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Gotta keep the broodmares producing
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you never heard of a referendum?

it’s undemocratic to let the people
vote for themselves? that’s the textbook definition of democratic.


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Objectively isn’t your strong suit is it.

Any normal objective person sees this for what it is . and rock hound laid it out in the simplest of terms

But you seemed to have taken the GOP side ..

In a nut shell the GOP is doing what subway did .

Claiming to sell a 100% tuna sub (a Democratic vote) but minus the Tuna ( twisting and rushing a vote on a primary day )

While still saying their tuna sub is 100% tuna

Republicans are afraid of the ballot box that’s why they attack any attempts to make voting easy and accessible for everyone.

But gerrymandering the electoral college and voting restrictions are the way they can stay in power
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[Pete F.]

“Women can’t have rights because they are ugly” is not the winning argument MAGAts like Jim and Matt Gaetz think it is.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Objectively isn’t your strong suit is it.

Any normal objective person sees this for what it is . and rock hound laid it out in the simplest of terms

But you seemed to have taken the GOP side ..

In a nut shell the GOP is doing what subway did .

Claiming to sell a 100% tuna sub (a Democratic vote) but minus the Tuna ( twisting and rushing a vote on a primary day )

While still saying their tuna sub is 100% tuna

Republicans are afraid of the ballot box that’s why they attack any attempts to make voting easy and accessible for everyone.

But gerrymandering the electoral college and voting restrictions are the way they can stay in power
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gerrymandering is bad? none of you cared when NY democrats did it and got caught.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Objectively isn’t your strong suit is it.

Any normal objective person sees this for what it is . and rock hound laid it out in the simplest of terms

But you seemed to have taken the GOP side ..

In a nut shell the GOP is doing what subway did .

Claiming to sell a 100% tuna sub (a Democratic vote) but minus the Tuna ( twisting and rushing a vote on a primary day )

While still saying their tuna sub is 100% tuna

Republicans are afraid of the ballot box that’s why they attack any attempts to make voting easy and accessible for everyone.

But gerrymandering the electoral college and voting restrictions are the way they can stay in power
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objectively, if you consider abortion to be the murder of babies, you’d want that vote as soon as possible, so as to hopefully end the slaughter sooner rather than later

Sorry if that’s going too fast for you.
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[Pete F.]

A vote for Republican in November is a vote to eliminate abortion, to restrict contraception, to prevent interstate travel for reproductive care, and to eliminate Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.

"Extreme" doesn't even begin to cover it.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

gerrymandering is bad? none of you cared when NY democrats did it and got caught.
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yes they got caught and it didn't work but dont be honest Gerrymandering by Republicans is a policy to avoid American Voters and make GOP safe districts to avoid having to govern to get re elected

Again you are short on a historical perspective ... and everything the same

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

objectively, if you consider abortion to be the murder of babies, you’d want that vote as soon as possible, so as to hopefully end the slaughter sooner rather than later

Sorry if that’s going too fast for you.
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Abortion has been in world history since the beginning of time ...

All you wish to do is impose your beliefs on others as some righteous Zealot its the new GOP No different than the Sunnis in Iraq a religious and political minority. Whos only way to stay in power is to cheat and intimidate and lie and create a system where they are insulated by the vote of the Majority ... And who of course claim those in the Majority are tyrannical and are trying to oppress them and their religion .. By suggesting the liberal idea of treating All Americans equally Some how infringes on them and their life its all

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Abortion has been in world history since the beginning of time ...

All you wish to do is impose your beliefs on others as some righteous Zealot its the new GOP No different than the Sunnis in Iraq a religious and political minority. Whos only way to stay in power is to cheat and intimidate and lie and create a system where they are insulated by the vote of the Majority ... And who of course claim those in the Majority are tyrannical and are trying to oppress them and their religion .. By suggesting the liberal idea of treating All Americans equally Some how infringes on them and their life its all

you’re not hoping you’re beliefs become policy? i’m then only home who does that? sure.

it’s not totalitarian to be opposed to murder.

“just like
the sunnis.”

yup. just like them. how come everyone wants to move to red states?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you’re not hoping you’re beliefs become policy? i’m then only home who does that? sure.

it’s not totalitarian to be opposed to murder.

“just like
the sunnis.”

yup. just like them. how come everyone wants to move to red states?
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Yea you’ll be fine
Who needs teachers, doctors or any of those high falutin professionals

Headline
As professionals flee antiabortion policies, red states face a brain drain
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Yea you’ll be fine
Who needs teachers, doctors or any of those high falutin professionals

Headline
As professionals flee antiabortion policies, red states face a brain drain
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many places in the hot states ( TN, NC, SC, NH, FL) can’t put up $650,000 homes fast enough. you don’t think people buying those homes, care about schools and healthcare?

You’re clinging to the old liberal notion that sky high taxes are good, because younger what you pay for. Americans are realizing what bullsh*t that is.

I’m not saying WV and KY are better than the CT suburbs. But there are specific places in red states, where you can get a very similar quality of life compared to what you’d get in CT, for way less cost.

I’ve listed cities in NH ( Bow , Bedford, Hollis, Brookline, Amherst), some of the best schools
in the state. Zero state income tax, zero state sales tax. My brother moved to Franklin TN years ago, very low taxes, zero decrease in quality of life

You’re problem is, you think every square inch of all red states, is fried twinkies and trailer parks and meth labs. It’s simply not true, Americans are realizing it, and the exodus has begun.

No one cares that you don’t happen to like it.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Headline
As professionals flee antiabortion policies, red states face a brain drain
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that headline exists only in your psychosis. In the real world, productive citizens are fleeing blue states for red states, and it will get worse. In the next 15 years CT will be staring at impossible pension and healthcare benefits it can’t come close to paying. Massive tax hikes are coming, which will
exacerbate the exodus. Same thing coming in NJ and IL.

It’s elementary school arithmetic. It’s not complicated.
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[Pete F.]

That Headline was in a paper

Whatever makes you think red states are immune

“In February 2022, 14 of the top 50 metros had a rent share higher than 30% relative to the median household income,” Realtor.com reported. “The least affordable rental market was Miami, Fla., followed by western and Sun Belt metros like Los Angeles, Calif., Riverside, Calif., Tampa, Fla., and San Diego, Calif. In addition, affordability has worsened in each one of the 14 markets as the current rent share of income is higher than this time last year and also higher than the average for 2021 as a whole.”
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Yea you’ll be fine
Who needs teachers, doctors or any of those high falutin professionals

Headline
As professionals flee antiabortion policies, red states face a brain drain
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here ya go Petie, this tool
let’s you look at national rankings of high schools. from US News and World report.

I live in a middle class Hartford suburb called southington. it’s a nice, very typical CT suburb. i pay all the usual CT taxes. the public high school is ranked 3,418th in the nation.

We looked at moving once, to Hollis NH. zero state income tax, zero state sales tax. Massive savings over CT. and the public high school
is ranked 1,119th in the nation. Much better.

I’m not saying every town in NH is great. What i’m saying, is that there are specific towns in red states ( and only in red states) that have a much better value proposition than comparable towns in blue states. there are beautiful places to live in CT. But they’re all insanely expensive., so they’re not all
a great value.

There’s no denying that.

what am i getting for all the taxes i pay in CT, that i wouldn’t get in a beautiful suburb in NH, TN, or NC?

https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...h-school-12389
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

here ya go Petie, this tool
let’s you look at national rankings of high schools. from US News and World report.

I live in a middle class Hartford suburb called southington. it’s a nice, very typical CT suburb. i pay all the usual CT taxes. the public high school is ranked 3,418th in the national.

We looked at moving once, to Hollis NH. zero state income tax, zero state sales tax. Massive savings over CT. and the public high school
is ranked 1,119th in the nation. Much better.

I’m not saying every town in NH is great. What i’m
saying, is that there are specific towns in red states ( only in red states) that have a much better value proposition than comparable towns in blue states.

There’s no denying that.

https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...h-school-12389
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You want to move to a state that has more liberals than CT and claim it’s because it’s nominally red?

In the last Presidential election, Hillsborough county flipped moderately Democratic, 52.8% to 45.2%.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

You want to move to a state that has more liberals than CT and claim it’s because it’s nominally red?

In the last Presidential election, Hillsborough county flipped moderately Democratic, 52.8% to 45.2%.
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do you ever answer a question?

i’d move to a state to put more than $1,000 more in my pocket every single month. to change my kids’ lives.


NH isn’t more liberal than CT. are you saying it is? seriously?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you’re not hoping you’re beliefs become policy? i’m then only home who does that? sure.

it’s not totalitarian to be opposed to murder.

“just like
the sunnis.”

yup. just like them. how come everyone wants to move to red states?
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Your everyone wants to move to a red state again!

you need new material other than your repeated lie and red state fantasy…. Yet in the real world


After court ruling, activists push prayer into schools
They say church and state are already too separate

Yep another real world example of the minority trying to impose their religious views … in public and government spaces ..
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Your everyone wants to move to a red state again!

you need new material other than your repeated lie and red state fantasy…. Yet in the real world


After court ruling, activists push prayer into schools
They say church and state are already too separate

Yep another real world example of the minority trying to impose their religious views … in public and government spaces ..
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i’m lying when i say people
are moving from blue states to red states?
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[wdmso]

Here is a story that of course completely makes Jim’s claim of people moving to red states are solely political and Jim please don’t say you never suggested that “ yup. just like them. how come everyone wants to move to red states?”

When the truth is How’s the internet services seems to be the number 1 concern of people looking to move into what’s considered rural community

Americans are moving to rural areas in ever-increasing numbers, reflecting their increased desire to seek out more space, embrace entrepreneurial opportunities, and take advantage of a lower cost of living. Politics was last on the list

DECIDING FACTORS
However, one factor, internet service, would be the deciding factor for 67% of those who responded to the Paulsen and Audience Audit survey.

Ultimately, many Americans would consider making a move if there had a reliable internet connection. This is one of the biggest issues that some folks have with the rural migration. If there is no service, then many people will not be able to keep their jobs and work from home


Among the top reasons that survey respondents said that they moved to a rural area include:

More land or space around home
Fewer people
More home for less money
Safe environment with clean air and water
Lower cost of living
No traffic
Different culture
Living in a place with different political affiliation



https://www.aem.org/news/the-rural-m...ere-its-headed
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i’m lying when i say people
are moving from blue states to red states?
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No Jim your lying about the reason. And you keep saying it over and over and over . Suggesting they are fleeing blue states to red states based on politics
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