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Old 08-29-2022, 09:15 AM   #1
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of course Jim picks the least likely outcome .. and presents it as the Norm not the exception

FYI the Army gets paid via the taxpayers they also get their housing subsidized by the government BHA starts at 2900 bucks a month for an e 5 and tops out at $5,037 in Boston

I know a lot of people who have had their homes paid for via the taxpayers and its cost them nothing out of pocket


Hell I know 1 person who just made a 100k of the sale of his home which the government BHA basic housing allotment paid his entire mortgage.. and his friend who are not married are forced to live in on base housing and do not get an extra 2900 bucks to buy a home

its not fair but thats the system
Why is that unlikely?

"FYI the Army gets paid via the taxpayers"

Yes, Einstein, and they are also serving the taxpayer, so it's reasonable that they'd be funded by the taxpayer. That's not what this program is, this loan forgiveness gives a windfall to everyone with a loan with no requirement that they do anything of public service.

How do you not see that?
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Old 08-29-2022, 09:35 AM   #2
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Why is that unlikely?

"FYI the Army gets paid via the taxpayers"

Yes, Einstein, and they are also serving the taxpayer, so it's reasonable that they'd be funded by the taxpayer. That's not what this program is, this loan forgiveness gives a windfall to everyone with a loan with no requirement that they do anything of public service.

How do you not see that?

you just hate it for the sake of hating it like i said you love socialism when its benefits corporations .. but when it benefits everyday americans not so much

but you want your school voucher and no issues for other to pay for your children's religious schooling
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Old 08-29-2022, 10:30 AM   #3
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you just hate it for the sake of hating it like i said you love socialism when its benefits corporations .. but when it benefits everyday americans not so much

but you want your school voucher and no issues for other to pay for your children's religious schooling
"you just hate it for the sake of hating it"

No, I hate it because it punishes those who did the right thing (or had nothing whatsoever to do with those loans because they didn't go to college), it rewards people who did absolutely nothing to deserve it, it's perfectly regressive in that it will take from the poor and give to the wealthy, and it will make college more expensive, less expensive.

"no issues for other to pay for your children's religious schooling"

No, I want MY MONEY, not anyone elses money, to be able to help fund my kids schooling.

Do you understand the difference between my money, and someone else's money?

Youre either lying to try to make your point, or you really have no grasp of this stuff.

YOU are the one who supports taking other peoples money to fund your kids education, because that's exactly what this stupidity is.
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Old 08-29-2022, 02:56 PM   #4
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"you just hate it for the sake of hating it"

No, I hate it because it punishes those who did the right thing (or had nothing whatsoever to do with those loans because they didn't go to college), it rewards people who did absolutely nothing to deserve it, it's perfectly regressive in that it will take from the poor and give to the wealthy, and it will make college more expensive, less expensive.

"no issues for other to pay for your children's religious schooling"

No, I want MY MONEY, not anyone elses money, to be able to help fund my kids schooling.

Do you understand the difference between my money, and someone else's money?

Youre either lying to try to make your point, or you really have no grasp of this stuff.

YOU are the one who supports taking other peoples money to fund your kids education, because that's exactly what this stupidity is.

No, I want MY MONEY, not anyone elses money, to be able to help fund my kids schooling.

to bad that's not how taxes work
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Old 08-29-2022, 03:11 PM   #5
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No, I want MY MONEY, not anyone elses money, to be able to help fund my kids schooling.

to bad that's not how taxes work
you brought up school choice, not me. i agree that’s not a tax. But you brought it up, not me, and you lied saying i want others to pay for my kids to go to private school.

Tigger alkyl have a problem with letting others decide things for themselves, and for fulfilling obligations we agree to take on,,don’t you.
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Old 08-29-2022, 03:23 PM   #6
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you brought up school choice, not me. i agree that’s not a tax. But you brought it up, not me, and you lied saying i want others to pay for my kids to go to private school.

Tigger alkyl have a problem with letting others decide things for themselves, and for fulfilling obligations we agree to take on,,don’t you.

jim those who are getting the relife . Most never asked for it .. not sure why you can't accept that ... and if it never happened would still be paying their loans and many are still paying their loans because they have more that 10k left to pay . but lets ignore that part

Also jim your taxes over 10 years don't even cover 1 of your childrens cost in a public school never mind 3 children

just like what i posted you'll want a tax refund because your house never had a fire or you feel you shouldn't have to pay taxes once you kids are out of school

So in a nutshell you want other taxpayers to subsidize your school choice.. you can't say that's not True . be we all know how it works
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Old 08-29-2022, 04:13 PM   #7
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jim those who are getting the relife . Most never asked for it .. not sure why you can't accept that ... and if it never happened would still be paying their loans and many are still paying their loans because they have more that 10k left to pay . but lets ignore that part

Also jim your taxes over 10 years don't even cover 1 of your childrens cost in a public school never mind 3 children

just like what i posted you'll want a tax refund because your house never had a fire or you feel you shouldn't have to pay taxes once you kids are out of school

So in a nutshell you want other taxpayers to subsidize your school choice.. you can't say that's not True . be we all know how it works
"Most never asked for it .. not sure why you can't accept that "

When did I say that everyone asked for it? I'm criticizing Biden for doing it, and I'm criticizing those like you who say it's sound policy.

I agree most people are just quietly paying off their loans, they didn't ask for this, and they'd be stupid to turn it down.

But you are denying its stupid policy. And you can't defend that, which is why you are claiming I said something I never came close to saying.

"Also jim your taxes over 10 years don't even cover 1 of your childrens cost in a public school"

What in Gods name are you talking about? My annual property taxes to my town are about $8500 for my house, another $2k for my cars and camper. I also pay a ton of state income tax, of which a good chunk goes from my state to my town.

My 2 younger kids go to a K-8 catholic school that costs about $5,500 a year.

How can you just make stuff up, out of thin air?

What I have asked for, is that A PORTION of what I pay to my town (not all of it) gets returned to me if I put my kids in Catholic school. It's my money. They're my kids. Let some of my money (not all of it) go with my kids, to fund a vastly superior education at about one-third the cost of the crappy public education.

You're humiliating yourself with demonstrable falsehoods.

I'm asking for a portion of my money back, that's all. Student loan forgiveness wants other peoples money. That's a very big difference.

"you'll want a tax refund because your house never had a fire or you feel you shouldn't have to pay taxes once you kids are out of school "

Again, you're stupidly wrong. I'll happily fund fire, police, and schools once my kids are out. Even when my kids are grown, I still have a vested interest in having good schools in my community.

Once again, you're claiming that I said things which I have never come close to saying. Even you know that you can't respond to what I'm saying, so you pretend I said stupid things which I'd never, ever say.

Is there any way you can try to stop claiming I''m saying things I never said, and instead respond to what I'm actually saying?
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