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Old 08-31-2022, 05:06 PM   #1
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CALIFORNIA (WTVO)California asks residents not to charge electric vehicles, days after announcing gas car ban
by: John Clark
Posted: Aug 31, 2022
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Old 08-31-2022, 07:31 PM   #2
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classic.....

CALIFORNIA (WTVO)California asks residents not to charge electric vehicles, days after announcing gas car ban
by: John Clark
Posted: Aug 31, 2022
But of course you left out the reason why. Imagine that .Such honesty

So you think this event isn’t related to climate change or any of the droughts or record breaking rains are just incidental



The actual alert

Wednesday, Aug. 31 – 11 a.m.
The California ISO has issued a Flex Alert for today, Aug. 31 from 4-9 p.m., due to high heat across the state and supply uncertainties. View the news release here.
More Flex Alerts are likely through the holiday weekend, as excessive heat is forecast to blanket most of California, and supplies are expected to be tight in the afternoon and evening, when solar production rolls off and demand remains high.
The ISO also issued an Energy Emergency Alert (EEA) Watch, effective 5 to 8 p.m. today, to access additional resources and prepare market participants and the public for potential energy shortages and the need to conserve. View our Emergency Notifications fact sheet for more information.
Consumer conservation will be critical to stabilizing the grid and maintaining electricity flow today.
• A Flex Alert is in effect today, from 4-9 p.m.
• We are experiencing some of the highest load levels of the year.
• We are monitoring weather conditions in neighboring areas, which impacts our ability to
import power from other grids.
• Overnight temperatures are staying high, which makes buildings and infrastructure
retain heat and can cause people to run air conditioners more.
• During multiple days of heat, generators that have been running at top speed can fail or
trip offline unexpectedly.
• We also have to expect the unexpected, meaning we need to be prepared for any
unplanned event that could tighten energy supplies.
• We called a Flex Alert to ask consumers to reduce electricity use from 4-9 p.m. today.
• That is the most critical time on the grid, because solar production is going offline, but
temperatures remain high.
The most important actions we’re encouraging consumers to take are:
 Pre-cool your homes before 4 p.m. and then set the thermostat to 78 degrees or higher
from 4 to 9 p.m., if health permits.
 Defer use of major appliances from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m. Run your dishwasher and washing
machine earlier or later.
 Turn off all unnecessary lights from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m.
 Cook your meals earlier in the day to save energy and keep your home cooler.
 Avoid charging EVs from 4-9 p.m., if possible. Instead, charge them before 4 p.m. when
solar production is abundant and electricity prices are likely lower.
We don’t anticipate any rotating power outages at this time.
This is the second Flex Alert of the 2022 summer season
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But of course you left out the reason why. Imagine that .Such honesty
not enough electricity........
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not enough electricity........
Like I said you ignored the reasons
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Like I said you ignored the reasons
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make sure you unplug your electric toaster when you aren't using to save electricity
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Old 09-01-2022, 08:44 AM   #6
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not enough electricity........
That would be the reason. Pretty simple.

Not enough electricity for todays needs, yet they want everyone to drive electric vehicles soon, and are of course adamantly opposed to nuclear power or coal to generate the additional needed electricity.
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You posted this long diatribe…

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But of course you left out the reason why. Imagine that .Such honesty

So you think this event isn’t related to climate change or any of the droughts or record breaking rains are just incidental



The actual alert

Wednesday, Aug. 31 – 11 a.m.
The California ISO has issued a Flex Alert for today, Aug. 31 from 4-9 p.m., due to high heat across the state and supply uncertainties. View the news release here.
More Flex Alerts are likely through the holiday weekend, as excessive heat is forecast to blanket most of California, and supplies are expected to be tight in the afternoon and evening, when solar production rolls off and demand remains high.
The ISO also issued an Energy Emergency Alert (EEA) Watch, effective 5 to 8 p.m. today, to access additional resources and prepare market participants and the public for potential energy shortages and the need to conserve. View our Emergency Notifications fact sheet for more information.
Consumer conservation will be critical to stabilizing the grid and maintaining electricity flow today.
• A Flex Alert is in effect today, from 4-9 p.m.
• We are experiencing some of the highest load levels of the year.
• We are monitoring weather conditions in neighboring areas, which impacts our ability to
import power from other grids.
• Overnight temperatures are staying high, which makes buildings and infrastructure
retain heat and can cause people to run air conditioners more.
• During multiple days of heat, generators that have been running at top speed can fail or
trip offline unexpectedly.
• We also have to expect the unexpected, meaning we need to be prepared for any
unplanned event that could tighten energy supplies.
• We called a Flex Alert to ask consumers to reduce electricity use from 4-9 p.m. today.
• That is the most critical time on the grid, because solar production is going offline, but
temperatures remain high.
The most important actions we’re encouraging consumers to take are:
 Pre-cool your homes before 4 p.m. and then set the thermostat to 78 degrees or higher
from 4 to 9 p.m., if health permits.
 Defer use of major appliances from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m. Run your dishwasher and washing
machine earlier or later.
 Turn off all unnecessary lights from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m.
 Cook your meals earlier in the day to save energy and keep your home cooler.
 Avoid charging EVs from 4-9 p.m., if possible. Instead, charge them before 4 p.m. when
solar production is abundant and electricity prices are likely lower.
We don’t anticipate any rotating power outages at this time.
This is the second Flex Alert of the 2022 summer season
Which basically can be summed up with these 3 words….

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not enough electricity........
Yet you can’t comprehend that….amazing

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Like I said you ignored the reasons
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You posted this long diatribe…



Which basically can be summed up with these 3 words….



Yet you can’t comprehend that….amazing


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why is there a possible shortage .. i'll give you a hint it's not EV's

All we just get is another comment from the peanut gallery .
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why is there a possible shortage .. i'll give you a hint it's not EV's

All we just get is another comment from the peanut gallery .
I’ll give you a hint, Scott never said it was caused by EV’s

All we just get is another comment based on something that was never said

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why is there a possible shortage .. i'll give you a hint it's not EV's

All we just get is another comment from the peanut gallery .
As TDF said, as always you responded to something no one even came close to saying. Where did anyone say that the shortage was caused by EVs?

Try to follow Wayne...

Today, there isn't enough electricity for CA's current demand. Yet the state is mandating that soon no more gas vehicles can be sold new, so that means there will be more EVs, which means energy needs will meaningfully increase.

People who live in the real world, would say that before you switch people to EVs, it's a good idea to make sure you have the infastructure to support that. Ideologues don't worry about such trivial details.
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As TDF said, as always you responded to something no one even came close to saying. Where did anyone say that the shortage was caused by EVs?

Try to follow Wayne...

Today, there isn't enough electricity for CA's current demand. Yet the state is mandating that soon no more gas vehicles can be sold new, so that means there will be more EVs, which means energy needs will meaningfully increase.

People who live in the real world, would say that before you switch people to EVs, it's a good idea to make sure you have the infastructure to support that. Ideologues don't worry about such trivial details.

Jim you don’t live in the real world you live in your world

You can’t even see peoples intent with their posts . With the same tired excuses if I didn’t spell it out exactly I didn’t mean it.

The request to reduce power consumption is do to excessive heat And expected use of what’s called air conditioners

And no way ties in to no new gas cars by 2035

Caused by you guessed it climate change.

We have the infrastructure for EVs we don’t have the infrastructure for extreme climate events .
But don’t let facts get in your way

And Read an actual news story from someplace other than fox or the Washington examiner


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Virginia revealed it is bound by a 2021 state law to also phase out gas-powered cars by 2035. However, Attorney General Jason Miyares’s (R) office said in a statement it hopes the state repeals the law Republicans once again going against voters


This year, Dodge announced announced it would discontinue gas-powered muscle cars the Charger and Challenger.

Conservatives clinging to the past like a rat clinging to a sinking ship

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Old 09-01-2022, 08:40 PM   #12
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Jim you don’t live in the real world you live in your world

You can’t even see peoples intent with their posts . With the same tired excuses if I didn’t spell it out exactly I didn’t mean it.

The request to reduce power consumption is do to excessive heat And expected use of what’s called air conditioners

And no way ties in to no new gas cars by 2035

Caused by you guessed it climate change.

We have the infrastructure for EVs we don’t have the infrastructure for extreme climate events .
But don’t let facts get in your way

And Read an actual news story from someplace other than fox or the Washington examiner


Oh look

Virginia revealed it is bound by a 2021 state law to also phase out gas-powered cars by 2035. However, Attorney General Jason Miyares’s (R) office said in a statement it hopes the state repeals the law Republicans once again going against voters


This year, Dodge announced announced it would discontinue gas-powered muscle cars the Charger and Challenger.

Conservatives clinging to the past like a rat clinging to a sinking ship

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so after CA band gas cars and everyone buys EVs, it won’t be hot anymore, and no one will run their A/C. that’s what you’re saying?

How do you know that the conditions creating today’s need, won’t also exist when everyone has EVs?

youre making some big assumptions.

“we have the infastructure for EVs”

we have enough charging stations for tens of millions of EVs, and enough power to charge them? sure we do wdmso.
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CALIFORNIA (WTVO)California asks residents not to charge electric vehicles, days after announcing gas car ban
by: John Clark
Posted: Aug 31, 2022
There was an unusual weather event in California and Governor Newsom asked residents to pitch in during a moment of crisis. People responded for the good of the community. The crisis passed with the electricity still on. Is a better model what was experienced in Texas?
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