advance climate change by….destroying art? makes all kinds of sense

[The Dad Fisherman]

Neither of my kids live at home. Last election we received mail in ballots for them in the mail, twice. What was to stop me from filling them out and mailing them back? They both voted in person in their respective locations too. Knowing people, the honor system isn’t 100% effective
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Neither of my kids live at home. Last election we received mail in ballots for them in the mail, twice. What was to stop me from filling them out and mailing them back? They both voted in person in their respective locations too. Knowing people, the honor system isn’t 100% effective
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Who ever claimed it was 100% that’s an impossible system

It’s your child’s responsibility to change their address. And if did fill them out only 1 vote would have been counted

It’s all a republicans hoax

The example below proves it

There is no reason to stand near drop boxes in Arizona and monitor who is casting ballots. After all, there is no evidence at all that drop boxes are a vehicle for casting fraudulent votes. The Associated Press contacted election administrators across the country and found no significant examples of fraud being committed using drop boxes.

Yet there has been a movement to do precisely that.
Much of the concern about drop boxes, of course, derives from the film “2000 Mules,


If something is broken fix it but. When those who claim it’s broken elected and non elected people are just lying and have zero empirical proof .. it is clearly their fault why people have lost Trust in elections

And it’s only the Republicans making those claims

And democrats concerned about the elections issue are the lies . Not this mythical fraud that statistically barely exist

No evidence for systematic voter fraud: A guide to statistical claims about the 2020 election

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2103619118
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Who ever claimed it was 100% that’s an impossible system

It’s your child’s responsibility to change their address. And if did fill them out only 1 vote would have been counted

It’s all a republicans hoax

The example below proves it

There is no reason to stand near drop boxes in Arizona and monitor who is casting ballots. After all, there is no evidence at all that drop boxes are a vehicle for casting fraudulent votes. The Associated Press contacted election administrators across the country and found no significant examples of fraud being committed using drop boxes.

Yet there has been a movement to do precisely that.
Much of the concern about drop boxes, of course, derives from the film “2000 Mules,


If something is broken fix it but. When those who claim it’s broken elected and non elected people are just lying and have zero empirical proof .. it is clearly their fault why people have lost Trust in elections

And it’s only the Republicans making those claims

And democrats concerned about the elections issue are the lies . Not this mythical fraud that statistically barely exist

No evidence for systematic voter fraud: A guide to statistical claims about the 2020 election

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2103619118
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TDF just proved it's not a hoax.

"And it’s only the Republicans making those claims"

Is TDF a Republican?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

TDF just proved it's not a hoax.

"And it’s only the Republicans making those claims"

Is TDF a Republican?

Un-Enrolled.

As Groucho Marx said “I wouldn’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member”

Before I was that, I used to be a registered Democrat.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

TDF just proved it's not a hoax.

"And it’s only the Republicans making those claims"

Is TDF a Republican?

And I didn’t “Prove” anything. I just said that there are concerns out there that don’t give people the warm and fuzzies on election integrity.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

And I didn’t “Prove” anything. I just said that there are concerns out there that don’t give people the warm and fuzzies on election integrity.
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Sorry to disagree, but you did prove that concerns about integrity are not a republican hoax. You didn't prove there was cheating and I didn't mean to imply that you did. You did prove that there are vulnerabilities.

You provided a case of exactly why we need safeguards, and you're not a republican.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Neither of my kids live at home. Last election we received mail in ballots for them in the mail, twice. What was to stop me from filling them out and mailing them back? They both voted in person in their respective locations too. Knowing people, the honor system isn’t 100% effective
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Bingo...

I'm willing to bet that if Pete was in your shoes, he might not have thrown them in the garbage...after writing in Hugo Chavez as his preferred candidate.

their are tons of people on both sides who will do anything to stay in power. So if there are obviously simple ways to make it harder to cheat, why oppose them?

To me, opposing voter id is like opposing drug tests. I'm pretty sure i know what you're trying to hide, it's not hard to figure it out...

Saying voter id is racist, takes the dishonesty to a whole new level.

If you put some problem-solvers in a room who cared nothing about politics, and asked them how to ensure honest elections, the first thing every one of them would say, is "in-person voting with voter id". What else comes close to guaranteeing honest results? Nothing else even comes close.

[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Neither of my kids live at home. Last election we received mail in ballots for them in the mail, twice. What was to stop me from filling them out and mailing them back? They both voted in person in their respective locations too. Knowing people, the honor system isn’t 100% effective
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Signature verification is one.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Signature verification is one.

I don’t ever sign anything when I vote in person, they don’t even check ID.

And do you really think they verify every signature on every ballot that comes in? Do you really think the government is that efficient?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Signature verification is one.

And that's very very reliable, because we're all trained to spot signature fakes.