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12-29-2022, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
why does santos deserve more than the punishment you’d give to democrats who lied/embellished, like our esteemed senator blumenthal, Biden, Princess Liz Warren, etc? Hilary lying about coming under sniper fire, that wasn’t a problem for democrats…
look, i’d say kick the guy out and have another election. but your side would never, ever agree that they need to be held to the same standard
Is there a specific reason why republican lies are more problematic than democrat lies?
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Well you use the same old few D lies and embelishments over and over and over again. The level of those same lies you use to try to tarnish Ds are not even close to the level and # of Trump or Santos. Trump/Santos have told dozens (Trump thousands) while the D lies you use are so few that you have to repeatedly use them. In addition, Trump, Biden, Warren and Blumenthal have all apologized. Trump prob. did but I must have missed it.
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12-29-2022, 01:04 PM
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Well you use the same old few lies and embelishments over and over and over again. The level of those same lies you use to try to tarnish Ds are not even close to the level of Trump or Santos.
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why is the list of lies i cite not valid paul? because i’ve cited them more than once?
so using that logic, if you and wayne cite santos’ lies the same number of times, those lies no longer matter?
Blumenthals lie is far worse worse than anything santos said, which is exactly why today that lie is a crime. unless a democrat tells it, apparently. Gimme a break.
Trump is in a category all by himself. We’re taking about santos.
the reason why i bring those lies up, is because you guys get all twisted in knots in a pathetic, humorous attempt to explain why those lies are so much more benign.
“everything is ok when democrats do it.”
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12-29-2022, 01:07 PM
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Well you use the same old few D lies and embelishments over and over and over again. The level of those same lies you use to try to tarnish Ds are not even close to the level and # of Trump or Santos. Trump/Santos have told dozens (Trump thousands) while the D lies you use are so few that you have to repeatedly use them.
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so “a few lies”, at least when told by democrats, is acceptable.
What’s the maximum number of lies that are allowed, before we should start caring? do democrats get a larger number?
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12-29-2022, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
so “a few lies”, at least when told by democrats, is acceptable.
What’s the maximum number of lies that are allowed, before we should start caring? do democrats get a larger number?
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Show me a D how "gets a larger number?"
Keep trying to comparing hundreds/thousands of lies with 1 or an embellishment and that is why we (I) can't take you seriously.
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12-29-2022, 01:18 PM
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Show me a D how "gets a larger number?"
Keep trying to comparing hundreds/thousands of lies with 1 or an embellishment and that is why we (I) can't take you seriously.
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Biden.
Santos has told hundreds or thousands of lies? how many fin hem are crimes, as blumenthals lie is?
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12-29-2022, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Biden.
Santos has told hundreds or thousands of lies? how many fin hem are crimes, as blumenthals lie is?
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And here it is again Jim’s logic
if they are not crimes what’s the problem
Jim give up . You defend this clown right off the bat. But know since you committed yourself to his cause
You decide to do what you always do try to make some false equivalences. And in double down because you can’t win the argument.
And the only argument I made was if his lies were proven truth would Republicans make him resign?
And it’s looking like they won’t hopefully they’ll come to their senses
But now they are proving that they are not the party of integrity, honesty, truthfulness they’re only interested in keeping his seat at any cost.
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12-29-2022, 01:32 PM
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And here it is again Jim’s logic
if they are not crimes what’s the problem
Jim give up . You defend this clown right off the bat. But know since you committed yourself to his cause
You decide to do what you always do try to make some false equivalences. And in double down because you can’t win the argument.
And the only argument I made was if his lies were proven truth would Republicans make him resign?
And it’s looking like they won’t hopefully they’ll come to their senses
But now they are proving that they are not the party of integrity, honesty, truthfulness they’re only interested in keeping his seat at any cost.
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defend him? i said to kick him out.
you really, really are stupid.
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12-29-2022, 01:52 PM
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And here it is again Jim’s logic
if they are not crimes what’s the problem
Jim give up . You defend this clown right off the bat. But know since you committed yourself to his cause
You decide to do what you always do try to make some false equivalences. And in double down because you can’t win the argument.
And the only argument I made was if his lies were proven truth would Republicans make him resign?
And it’s looking like they won’t hopefully they’ll come to their senses
But now they are proving that they are not the party of integrity, honesty, truthfulness they’re only interested in keeping his seat at any cost.
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Wayne, since Blumenthal's lie is actually against the law, then on what basis could you conclude that Santos' lies are worse? Other than the fact that Santos is a republican, that is...
"false equivalences"
Wayne, no two events are exactly alike in every single detail. That doesn't mean they aren't somewhat comparable. Every single time yoru hypocrisy is shown, you cry about "false equivalence", yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never. I'm giving you a chance to do that here. Why is Blumenthal's lie not worse that Santos'?
They passed a law to criminalize what Blumenthal did. SO again, please tell us why his lie is more benign than Santos'?
I'll wait.
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12-29-2022, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Wayne, since Blumenthal's lie is actually against the law, then on what basis could you conclude that Santos' lies are worse? Other than the fact that Santos is a republican, that is...
"false equivalences"
Wayne, no two events are exactly alike in every single detail. That doesn't mean they aren't somewhat comparable. Every single time yoru hypocrisy is shown, you cry about "false equivalence", yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never. I'm giving you a chance to do that here. Why is Blumenthal's lie not worse that Santos'?
They passed a law to criminalize what Blumenthal did. SO again, please tell us why his lie is more benign than Santos'?
I'll wait.
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So I'll ask again, what did Blumenthal do that is a crime? I'll wait.
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12-29-2022, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Wayne, since Blumenthal's lie is actually against the law, then on what basis could you conclude that Santos' lies are worse? Other than the fact that Santos is a republican, that is...
"false equivalences"
Wayne, no two events are exactly alike in every single detail. That doesn't mean they aren't somewhat comparable. Every single time yoru hypocrisy is shown, you cry about "false equivalence", yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never. I'm giving you a chance to do that here. Why is lie not worse that Santos'?
They passed a law to criminalize what Blumenthal did. SO again, please tell us why his lie is more benign than Santos'?
I'll wait.
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What law would that be can’t wait because you have no idea what you’re talking about
But Let me guess stolen valor act ?
You can’t even read the law correctly
federal criminal code to make it a crime for a person to fraudulently claim having received a valor award specified in the Act, with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit by convincing another that he or she received the award.
a Congressional Medal of Honor,
a distinguished-service cross,
a Navy cross,
an Air Force cross,
a silver star,
a Purple Heart,
a Combat Infantryman's Badge,
a Combat Action Badge,
a Combat Medical Badge,
a Combat Action Ribbon,
a Combat Action Medal, or
any replacement or duplicate medal for such medal as authorized by law
I have 2 on the list .
Blumenthal Never claimed he was awarded any of those awards.
But he did say this
Blumenthal responded to a question about Iran by saying, “Although I did not serve in Vietnam, I have seen firsthand the effects of military action, and no one wants it to be the first resort
yet you never, ever specify why the equivalence is false. Never.
I have . you still can’t accept the difference . between a white lie
Or admit Santos behavior isn’t just a lie it’s totally fraudulent made up to misrepresent himself to voters
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12-29-2022, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Biden.
Santos has told hundreds or thousands of lies? how many fin hem are crimes, as blumenthals lie is?
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Santos has told dozens (on the way to hundreds) of lies. Trump thousands.
The D lies or embellishments you post are not crimes and that is why both Santos and Trump are being investigated by federal and local authorities.
Blumenthal was a reservist and said he served in vietnam - which he didn't. How is Blumenthal's a crime?
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