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02-17-2025, 07:25 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Sort of hypocritical to be all about cutting government wasteful spending and then spend tens of millions of our tax dollars for a purely political stunt like the super bowl and Daytona productions.
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02-17-2025, 08:52 AM
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Sort of hypocritical to be all about cutting government wasteful spending and then spend tens of millions of our tax dollars for a purely political stunt like the super bowl and Daytona productions.
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Don’t forget 10 people died in floods while Trump took his victory lap
But critics, including conservative political commentator Tucker Carlson, GOP Sen. Marco Rubio, Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert and Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, in questioning the administration’s handling of the chemical disaster. In Ohio.
Remember the one where no one was killed. And no homes were lost.
That right wing manufacturer tragedy
You know you can’t post the Truth here.. some members might get upset.. you forget his week ending trips back to Florida
Biden, who has been heavily criticized by conservatives for the amount of time he has spent on vacation at his Delaware beach house over the years, faced backlash online from conservatives over his Friday comment.
In a related story, Biden will be taking another long weekend at the beach and has spent 40% of his presidency on vacation," Fox News contributor Joe Concha posted on X.
"REALITY CHECK: Joe Biden has spent 40% of his presidency on vacation," GOP strategist Steve Guest posted on X.
Republicans dishonestly is their bread and butter
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02-17-2025, 08:42 AM
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Watched a segment of live liberty and Levine Who asked speaker Johnson why liberals loved George Soros. But hate Musk and what he is doing?
Johnson.Praised Musk for being in the belly of the beast. And helping bringing some government as the founders wanted. And fighting against the deep and administrative state. Then went on to say they the Dems were hypocrites for supporting Soros and not Musk.
That’s all these cowards do is lie and lie on Fox which is Trumps propaganda wing.
The only way Soros is like musk is their both billionaires and donors.. full stop
Of course the can’t show Soros having access to Americans personal information
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02-17-2025, 09:54 AM
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Here’s a Brit looking at our current situation from outside our box.
He explains pretty well why the average MAGA supporter ain’t gonna be happy.
Now the Libertarian and the Cult member will disagree, oh well.
https://youtu.be/R8BQf7aM2gM?si=hqHelYyPmliaHL6F
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02-17-2025, 10:04 AM
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After all we've seen in the past 3.5wks, I cannot believe anyone is confused about this.
Musk. Owns. Trump.
Trump sold Musk the functions of the Presidency; in return, Musk spent $250M to ensure Trump won instead of dying in prison.
Trump just licenses his name to the deal: POTUS in name only.
He sits at his desk and signs EOs “That’s a big one”
Makes public appearances at events at a cost of millions each.
Issues Truths on his social media platform.
Sells MAGA stuff
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02-17-2025, 10:35 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
After all we've seen in the past 3.5wks, I cannot believe anyone is confused about this.
Musk. Owns. Trump.
Trump sold Musk the functions of the Presidency; in return, Musk spent $250M to ensure Trump won instead of dying in prison.
Trump just licenses his name to the deal: POTUS in name only.
He sits at his desk and signs EOs “That’s a big one”
Makes public appearances at events at a cost of millions each.
Issues Truths on his social media platform.
Sells MAGA stuff
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02-17-2025, 11:08 AM
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Protest starts in an hour..unless they cancelled.I will bring hot chocolate for you. LMK... Summer is better weather for protests.....if we still have a country.
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02-17-2025, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Here are only a few examples of the WASTE and ABUSE of USAid:
$1.5 million to “advance diversity equity and inclusion in Serbia’s workplaces and business communities”
$70,000 for production of a “DEI musical” in Ireland
$2.5 million for electric vehicles for Vietnam
$47,000 for a “transgender opera” in Colombia
$32,000 for a “transgender comic book” in Peru
$2 million for sex changes and “LGBT activism” in Guatemala
$6 million to fund tourism in Egypt
Hundreds of thousands of dollars for a non-profit linked to designated terrorist organizations — even AFTER an inspector general launched an investigation
Millions to EcoHealth Alliance — which was involved in research at the Wuhan lab
“Hundreds of thousands of meals that went to al Qaeda-affiliated fighters in Syria”
Funding to print “personalized” contraceptives birth control devices in developing countries
Hundreds of millions of dollars to fund “irrigation canals, farming equipment, and even fertilizer used to support the unprecedented poppy cultivation and heroin production in Afghanistan,” benefiting the Taliban
The list literally goes on and on — and it has all been happening for decades.
What no links I am shocked.
Half of what you posted is all BS.
Oh so half isn't?
Still where’s the fraud. ?
Who said anything about fraud?
When is Musk. Going to show us what Trumps. USAID funded and spent. During his 1st Term?
What does it matter? If you can show wasteful or abusive USAid funding during Trump's administration, how would that make the agency not wasteful or abusive?
But we know you’ll never ask to see that.. it’s not convenient….
It would just be further proof of the agency's wastefulness and abuse.
No doubt USAid wasted money during Trump's administration as well as during its tenure under the other Presidents.
Now an examination of spending records shows that in October 2021 $24,000 (£19,000) of US taxpayer's money was given to the Institute of Art, Design and Technology (IADT) in Dun Laoghaire, Co Dublin, to "nurture and encourage equality, inclusion and diversity in storytelling, by facilitating self-generated narratives from diverse community groups through the medium of film".
In my opinion giving taxpayer money to an art institute in Ireland, especially for a DEI project, is a waste of money for a country that is 30 trillion dollars in debt, and whose citizens are suffering inflationary prices for their necessities as well as an impending collapse of their Social Security investment.
FYI just because Trump considers it waste and abuse. Because he doesn’t like it. Doesn’t make it so.
Doesn't make it not.
The funding was passed by congress and signed by the POTUS
Making it a law. The ones republicans find so pesky .. when they get in their way
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It is a very pesky and wasteful law--regardless which Congress passed it or which President signed it.
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02-17-2025, 02:33 PM
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It is a very pesky and wasteful law--regardless which Congress passed it or which President signed it.
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So, if someone disappeared Trump and Musk perhaps to Guantanamo and the majority of people thought they were pesky and wasteful and that it saved the country, would a law have been broken?
Who chooses which laws are enforced?
Why do we have the rule of law?
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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02-17-2025, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
So, if someone disappeared Trump and Musk perhaps to Guantanamo and the majority of people thought they were pesky and wasteful and that it saved the country, would a law have been broken?
Who chooses which laws are enforced?
Why do we have the rule of law?
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Hitler.
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02-17-2025, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
Hitler.
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“Is this referring to the video? WTF are you talking about?”
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Frasier: Niles, I’ve just had the most marvelous idea for a website! People will post their opinions, cheeky bon mots, and insights, and others will reply in kind!
Niles: You have met “people”, haven’t you?
Lets Go Darwin
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02-17-2025, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F.
“Is this referring to the video? WTF are you talking about?”
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02-18-2025, 05:17 AM
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Hitler.
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This what they are reduced to.......sniveling crybabies...making hitler comparisons means they are idiots. They have tried everything else to stop him and nothing has worked. Its all they have left and makes them look stupider everytime.
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02-18-2025, 06:06 AM
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This what they are reduced to.......sniveling crybabies...making hitler comparisons means they are idiots. They have tried everything else to stop him and nothing has worked. It’s all they have left and makes them look stupider everytime.
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I guess then a simple question is, under Trump is the country moving more towards Hitler or a representative democracy.
I’ll wait.
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02-17-2025, 02:42 PM
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Don’t forget that JD Vance went to Yale Law on a DEI program for veterans called Yellow Ribbon.
After women, veterans are the number two recipients of DEI benefits.
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02-17-2025, 03:33 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...ral-employees/
Elon Musk ridiculed a blind person on X. Then a mob went to work.
Musk’s unparalleled online reach on X has given him a powerful tool to attack individuals who criticize DOGE.
First, Musk retweeted a post on X noting that the “blind director of watchdog group funded by George Soros testifies that he does not see widespread evidence of government waste” and added two laughing/crying emojis. The tweet garnered more than 21 million views, and sparked dozens of hateful messages to Hedtler-Gaudette’s account.
“He couldn’t see s--- … perfect excuse for being unable to perform your job,” one poster said. “The dei blind guy can’t see fraud. U can’t make up this garbage,” another wrote. One person even called for posters to surface Hedtler-Gaudette’s bank account.
Last week, he amplified baseless claims about the judge who overturned Trump’s funding freeze on federal grants that named his government employee daughter. Musk has called for the dismissal of journalists who have written about DOGE, calling their actions “possibly criminal.”
Republicans to cowardly to call this behavior wrong. they actually think they are holding Musks leash. LOL
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02-17-2025, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wdmso
https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...ral-employees/
Elon Musk ridiculed a blind person on X. Then a mob went to work.
Musk’s unparalleled online reach on X has given him a powerful tool to attack individuals who criticize DOGE.
First, Musk retweeted a post on X noting that the “blind director of watchdog group funded by George Soros testifies that he does not see widespread evidence of government waste” and added two laughing/crying emojis. The tweet garnered more than 21 million views, and sparked dozens of hateful messages to Hedtler-Gaudette’s account.
“He couldn’t see s--- … perfect excuse for being unable to perform your job,” one poster said. “The dei blind guy can’t see fraud. U can’t make up this garbage,” another wrote. One person even called for posters to surface Hedtler-Gaudette’s bank account.
Last week, he amplified baseless claims about the judge who overturned Trump’s funding freeze on federal grants that named his government employee daughter. Musk has called for the dismissal of journalists who have written about DOGE, calling their actions “possibly criminal.”
Republicans to cowardly to call this behavior wrong. they actually think they are holding Musks leash. LOL
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I have not heard the Musk version of this, if there is one. But, from what you've posted, it doesn't move me enough to really care in the grand political schemes of legislation that uphold or destroy the constitutional integrity of our system of government. It does appear, however, to be well below the high standard set by Democrats . . . so I'll go with the flow and say that his behavior is wrong. Sort of. Certainly not befitting of the constantly high quality vective that gushes daily from the lips of Democrats.
Ah, Musk . . . if only you were perfect . . . sort of like Biden, or Harris, or Schumer . . . et al.
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02-18-2025, 03:59 AM
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[QUOTE=detbuch Certainly not befitting of the constantly high quality vective that gushes daily from the lips of Democrats.
Ah, Musk . . . if only you were perfect . . . sort of like Biden, or Harris, or Schumer . . . et al.[/QUOTE]
Sackless hypocrites says it all and cannot be repeated enough. 
We may have to rename TDS....as it doesnt cover the complete emotional and mental breakdown of grown men.
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02-18-2025, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by detbuch
I have not heard the Musk version of this, if there is one. But, from what you've posted, it doesn't move me enough to really care in the grand political schemes of legislation that uphold or destroy the constitutional integrity of our system of government. It does appear, however, to be well below the high standard set by Democrats . . . so I'll go with the flow and say that his behavior is wrong. Sort of. Certainly not befitting of the constantly high quality vective that gushes daily from the lips of Democrats.
Ah, Musk . . . if only you were perfect . . . sort of like Biden, or Harris, or Schumer . . . et al.
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doesn't move me enough to really care in the grand political schemes of legislation that uphold or destroy the constitutional integrity of our system of government.
So what did Trump do in his first term to fix the above?
I have not heard the Musk version of this … nice cop out
How about this one
Hegseth says Biden’s IRS targeted him for a#^&‘sham’ audit
The defense secretary posted an undated IRS notice on social media. He offered no evidence that it was politically motivated.
Yep, conveniently after musk gets access to the IRS database.. telegraph in the future
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02-17-2025, 06:36 PM
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by Will Bunch
The newest dystopian thriller that everyone is talking about these days is a little hard to swallow, even by Hollywood standards. The supervillain is an almost cartoonish sort: The world’s richest man with a drug habit, 11 scattered kids, and a penchant for sleeping on couches (if at all). With his posse of young male tech groupies, he uses his billions to first buy the political discourse, then a greedy puppet president, and finally, through him, the levers of government.
It’s almost too late when the masses learn the villain’s real purpose: To replace the flawed humanity of democracy with machines designed by an unaccountable tech elite. And the heroes of our story — a gaggle of activists, outsider journalists and mid-level politicians who realize the truth — are running out of time.
This unbelievable plot line is our reality, now playing out in Washington, D.C., and coming soon to a closed federal office or downsized university near you. The blitzkrieg by Elon Musk and his small cult of 20-something dude-bro minions against the federal government — crushing foreign aid and consumer protection, threatening the Department of Education and seeking a chokehold over the entire federal payment system — has left everyday Americans dazed and confused. And we’re just three weeks into the Donald Trump presidency that has enabled the $400 billion man.
The rapid onslaught by Musk and his pseudo-government agency, the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, has happened in a scattershot, unpredictable way that has also left the Beltway media in the dust. Few, if any, seem to understand what Musk, DOGE, or their hands-off patron in Trump truly want. It’s true that massive cuts in the programs that empower middle-class Americans will mean more money for things that Musk, Trump and their allies want, including more tax cuts for the super-rich and a large deportation army. But a community of folks who pay attention to Silicon Valley — the new center of power, not Washington — says the bigger idea is darker and much more sinister.
“This isn’t a spontaneous coup — it’s the culmination of a dangerous ideology that has been meticulously developed since the 2008 financial crisis, one that sees democracy itself as obsolete technology ready to be ‘disrupted,’“ a veteran Silicon Valley executive, Mike Brock, wrote in a recent essay, The Plot Against America. He explained: ”DOGE is not about efficiency. It is about erasure. Democracy is being deleted in slow motion, replaced by proprietary technology and AI models. It is a coup, executed not with guns, but with backend migrations and database wipes."
That’s dangerous, because most of us — voters, but also the media, Congress and other watchdogs — are much better at understanding a violent coup where cops are beaten and attacked, as on Jan. 6, 2021, than “backend migrations.” But longtime watchers say the dangerous techno-fascism behind Musk’s DOGE has a long-time patron in Musk’s ally and fellow South Africa-raised billionaire, Peter Thiel, and a key inventor: Curtis Yarvin.
A 51-year-old computer engineer and blogger with a following going back to the 2000s, Yarvin is unknown to most Americans but his radical ideas have grown deep roots in some MAGA circles. In many ways, his views are deeply problematic on issues like race — telling the New York Times last month that Black people were worse off in their freed years right after the Civil War than when they were enslaved, for example. But Yarvin’s bigger ideas about the failure of democracy and the need for a kind of monarch, or a dictator, with the value system of technological elites — cemented after the 2008 financial crisis — have gained admirers that include Vice President JD Vance.
“If Americans want to change their government, they’re going to have to get over their dictator phobia,” Yarvin wrote under a pseudonym in 2012. Yarvin and a circle of “thought leaders” in Silicon Valley and other far-right communities believe that democracy is a kind of inefficient mob rule, broken beyond repair, but that a high-tech-flavored “creative destruction” could replace it with a notion of better government through computer engineering.
In explaining what Yarvin has also called “turbocapitalism,” Suzanne Schneider in the UK’s New European wrote: “The engineers...represent the triumph of instrumental reason in our new century. They fetishize efficiency and understand the democratic state as an impediment to the sort of ‘progress’ they desire.” Ultimately these ideas were adopted by billionaires with the power in an age of unlimited campaign spending to change America like Thiel, who notoriously wrote in 2009 that “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.”
Ideas from this extreme-right intelligentsia spent the last 15 years morphing, remarkably, into reality. These include controlling the flow of information (Musk buying Twitter for $44 billion in 2022), a Yarvin 2022 proposal called “RAGE” for Retire All Government Employees (thus, the DOGE-led push for mass resignations and firings of the federal workforce), and the more recent Silicon Valley embrace of cryptocurrency as a tool to disrupt the institutions of a comatose democracy. Now, Musk’s DOGE team is racing to replace the fired or locked-out civil servants with generative artificial intelligence in what a TechPolicy Press writer calls “an AI Coup,” because it “concentrates power with those who understand and control this system’s maintenance, upkeep, and upgrades.”
Normally, these fringe ideas would have stayed about 3,000 miles west of Washington, quarantined in their wealthy California bubble, but a perfect storm put this nightmare on the brink. For one thing, a majority of rank-and-file voters also lost faith in government as well as the institutions that support civil society, if perhaps for different reasons. Even more importantly, the anti-democratic ideas of Yarvin and Thiel found both an even wealthier ally in Musk and also a front man in Trump, the bridge with an ability to seduce MAGA voters, even as he agreed to cede enormous power to billionaires, in a Faustian bargain to gain four more years in the White House.
Trump’s “red Caesar” techno-monarchy is actually just high-tech tyranny. Government by AI isn’t more efficient, just inhumane, and it’s also a lie, because the real decisions aren’t actually being made by computers, but by the corrupted humans who program them. And their unbridled faith in Silicon Valley elites is often an excuse to govern America with the same foundations of white supremacy and misogyny that thrive in the tech world. The humans who pretend in the ethical purity of AI really just want more obscene wealth for themselves and the same impunity for their crimes that Trump has granted himself.
The masses of American people need to understand that we are already pawns in their experiment, and that a small band of billionaires and their disciples played the cruelest hoax of using a democratic election on Nov. 5, 2024, to push the start button on their program to end democracy. Humanity needs to fight back quickly, before their AI algorithm decides that on Nov. 7, 2028, your vote doesn’t matter at all.
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02-18-2025, 02:13 AM
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by Will Bunch
The newest dystopian thriller that everyone is talking about these days is a little hard to swallow, even by Hollywood standards. The supervillain is an almost cartoonish sort: The world’s richest man with a drug habit, 11 scattered kids, and a penchant for sleeping on couches (if at all). With his posse of young male tech groupies, he uses his billions to first buy the political discourse, then a greedy puppet president, and finally, through him, the levers of government.
It’s almost too late when the masses learn the villain’s real purpose: To replace the flawed humanity of democracy with machines designed by an unaccountable tech elite. And the heroes of our story — a gaggle of activists, outsider journalists and mid-level politicians who realize the truth — are running out of time.
This unbelievable plot line is our reality, now playing out in Washington, D.C., and coming soon to a closed federal office or downsized university near you. The blitzkrieg by Elon Musk and his small cult of 20-something dude-bro minions against the federal government — crushing foreign aid and consumer protection, threatening the Department of Education and seeking a chokehold over the entire federal payment system — has left everyday Americans dazed and confused. And we’re just three weeks into the Donald Trump presidency that has enabled the $400 billion man.
The rapid onslaught by Musk and his pseudo-government agency, the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, has happened in a scattershot, unpredictable way that has also left the Beltway media in the dust. Few, if any, seem to understand what Musk, DOGE, or their hands-off patron in Trump truly want. It’s true that massive cuts in the programs that empower middle-class Americans will mean more money for things that Musk, Trump and their allies want, including more tax cuts for the super-rich and a large deportation army. But a community of folks who pay attention to Silicon Valley — the new center of power, not Washington — says the bigger idea is darker and much more sinister.
“This isn’t a spontaneous coup — it’s the culmination of a dangerous ideology that has been meticulously developed since the 2008 financial crisis, one that sees democracy itself as obsolete technology ready to be ‘disrupted,’“ a veteran Silicon Valley executive, Mike Brock, wrote in a recent essay, The Plot Against America. He explained: ”DOGE is not about efficiency. It is about erasure. Democracy is being deleted in slow motion, replaced by proprietary technology and AI models. It is a coup, executed not with guns, but with backend migrations and database wipes."
That’s dangerous, because most of us — voters, but also the media, Congress and other watchdogs — are much better at understanding a violent coup where cops are beaten and attacked, as on Jan. 6, 2021, than “backend migrations.” But longtime watchers say the dangerous techno-fascism behind Musk’s DOGE has a long-time patron in Musk’s ally and fellow South Africa-raised billionaire, Peter Thiel, and a key inventor: Curtis Yarvin.
A 51-year-old computer engineer and blogger with a following going back to the 2000s, Yarvin is unknown to most Americans but his radical ideas have grown deep roots in some MAGA circles. In many ways, his views are deeply problematic on issues like race — telling the New York Times last month that Black people were worse off in their freed years right after the Civil War than when they were enslaved, for example. But Yarvin’s bigger ideas about the failure of democracy and the need for a kind of monarch, or a dictator, with the value system of technological elites — cemented after the 2008 financial crisis — have gained admirers that include Vice President JD Vance.
“If Americans want to change their government, they’re going to have to get over their dictator phobia,” Yarvin wrote under a pseudonym in 2012. Yarvin and a circle of “thought leaders” in Silicon Valley and other far-right communities believe that democracy is a kind of inefficient mob rule, broken beyond repair, but that a high-tech-flavored “creative destruction” could replace it with a notion of better government through computer engineering.
In explaining what Yarvin has also called “turbocapitalism,” Suzanne Schneider in the UK’s New European wrote: “The engineers...represent the triumph of instrumental reason in our new century. They fetishize efficiency and understand the democratic state as an impediment to the sort of ‘progress’ they desire.” Ultimately these ideas were adopted by billionaires with the power in an age of unlimited campaign spending to change America like Thiel, who notoriously wrote in 2009 that “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible.”
Ideas from this extreme-right intelligentsia spent the last 15 years morphing, remarkably, into reality. These include controlling the flow of information (Musk buying Twitter for $44 billion in 2022), a Yarvin 2022 proposal called “RAGE” for Retire All Government Employees (thus, the DOGE-led push for mass resignations and firings of the federal workforce), and the more recent Silicon Valley embrace of cryptocurrency as a tool to disrupt the institutions of a comatose democracy. Now, Musk’s DOGE team is racing to replace the fired or locked-out civil servants with generative artificial intelligence in what a TechPolicy Press writer calls “an AI Coup,” because it “concentrates power with those who understand and control this system’s maintenance, upkeep, and upgrades.”
Normally, these fringe ideas would have stayed about 3,000 miles west of Washington, quarantined in their wealthy California bubble, but a perfect storm put this nightmare on the brink. For one thing, a majority of rank-and-file voters also lost faith in government as well as the institutions that support civil society, if perhaps for different reasons. Even more importantly, the anti-democratic ideas of Yarvin and Thiel found both an even wealthier ally in Musk and also a front man in Trump, the bridge with an ability to seduce MAGA voters, even as he agreed to cede enormous power to billionaires, in a Faustian bargain to gain four more years in the White House.
Trump’s “red Caesar” techno-monarchy is actually just high-tech tyranny. Government by AI isn’t more efficient, just inhumane, and it’s also a lie, because the real decisions aren’t actually being made by computers, but by the corrupted humans who program them. And their unbridled faith in Silicon Valley elites is often an excuse to govern America with the same foundations of white supremacy and misogyny that thrive in the tech world. The humans who pretend in the ethical purity of AI really just want more obscene wealth for themselves and the same impunity for their crimes that Trump has granted himself.
The masses of American people need to understand that we are already pawns in their experiment, and that a small band of billionaires and their disciples played the cruelest hoax of using a democratic election on Nov. 5, 2024, to push the start button on their program to end democracy. Humanity needs to fight back quickly, before their AI algorithm decides that on Nov. 7, 2028, your vote doesn’t matter at all.
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Maybe use your own thoughts and words........even if it's hard
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Maybe use your own thoughts and words........even if it's hard
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You have several
Sackless hypocrite
TDS (project much)
I haven’t seen an original thought from you in this thread, just claims that others are deranged about Trump while demonstrating that you’re deranged by him.
Kinda hypocritical, honestly I don’t care if you have a sack or not.
The felon and his co-president are currently engaged in a disassembly of the current government.
Claiming that it now consists of unelected bureaucrats
Hint pre Trump it had the fewest employees since the 70s
Their group of unelected bureaucrats are doing a number of things which are illegal and or unconstitutional.
They have now switched their claim to be that Musk is not in charge of DOGE.
So now we have a bunch of Musk followers and their bots installed in government led by who?
It’s been a little over three weeks that the FFOTUS and FElon have been in power and people are starting to realize what they are doing.
You might also figure it out, but you seem like that guy who’ll have a Trump tattoo on his back.
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02-18-2025, 08:35 AM
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You have several
Sackless hypocrite
TDS (project much)
I haven’t seen an original thought from you in this thread, just claims that others are deranged about Trump while demonstrating that you’re deranged by him.
Kinda hypocritical, honestly I don’t care if you have a sack or not.
The felon and his co-president are currently engaged in a disassembly of the current government.
Claiming that it now consists of unelected bureaucrats
Hint pre Trump it had the fewest employees since the 70s
Their group of unelected bureaucrats are doing a number of things which are illegal and or unconstitutional.
They have now switched their claim to be that Musk is not in charge of DOGE.
So now we have a bunch of Musk followers and their bots installed in government led by who?
It’s been a little over three weeks that the FFOTUS and FElon have been in power and people are starting to realize what they are doing.
You might also figure it out, but you seem like that guy who’ll have a Trump tattoo on his back.
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Tattoos are nonexistent in my family....a big family. But keep ass huming like the other fools
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02-18-2025, 09:01 AM
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Deep thoughts
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There is already a TDS support thread in the scuppers....they can't help themselves
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Time for a wellness check on the TDS suckers. The TDS support group ward is growing. So another thread was necessary. Pete.. anonymous sources? Really? Tell us more.
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More sackless hypocrites to see.......here and in Canada.
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Just enjoying the clownshow you guys are making of yourselves. Where you been? Got worried about you.
Democrats have announced that it's time to take this fight to the streets  .
You in?
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Bunk beds?....no problem..
But I'm a little busy with a couple of million dollar homes right now. You don't sound to busy...and I see you’re just an amateur but something you could tackle. 😉
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Million bucks buys you a spec home these days. Hell, are they even using clear trim? (When I say clear I mean with no knots)
Id be happy to answer your doityourselfer questions in the right forum/thread....this one is for the TDS support group. Check on each other often through these tough times ahead.
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Maybe try more impeacments, indictments, convictions, assassinations, or since none of that garbage worked.....
take it to the streets. 
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Keep crying. and making stupid ass umptions..nothing left for you. Happy to have helped set up this support group. Look to your comrades for sympathy...im laughing at you fools.
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They call that voting......as in an election. An election he won. Are you unaware of this or just havent come to terms with the facts?
Are you suggesting that the American people didnt prefer him over the prosecutor.
Cry on.
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You dont know me well at all......i have the will and the means to succeed ...anywhere anytime....and yes Im that confident.
I have gone it alone, refuted pessimism and understand that the American dream doesn't come easy.
If I had to start over it would be even easier. God blessed me with good health, and great parents. The land of opportunity is still alive and well and the last election has been a godsend to those who struggle and strive for success.
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More ass umptions. Who is the president now? c'mon...you can say it. Hypocrite...cry some more
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Ive come to the obvious conclusion that even when you rub your two remaining brain cells together you still got nothing.
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So what. Nothing you or the rest of you TDS suckers can do about it. Is there?
Cry some more...that's about it.
I've heard some dems are suggesting taking the fight to the streets. 
He's going to proclaim that he is supreme leader soon  ..... according to an anonymous source..... so you had better get the hell going.
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^^^^^^These low IQ references to nazis, hitler, ss, etc. are what the American people rejected, and helped Trump win. Good job.
I understand it can be difficult for those whose intelligence abruptly stopped growing at age 15.
This support group was set up for just that purpose.
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More crying from the sackless hypocrites. Fifteen pages of butthurt stupidity.
So ....what action will you take to stop this great president's agenda? Nothing....that is what you will do. Absolutely nothing.
That is what this support group is for....safe space for wounded libs to vent. This thread may ease your angst and keep me mildly entertained....with a few good laughs mixed in.
Four more years...losers.
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Ive asked questions....several. Only one answered. Of course I believe in the Constitution. See how easy. As far as debates...i will pass.....waste of time with TDS patients.
Will you hypocrites be taking the fight to the streets ...as your elite democrat leaders....Maxine Waters and Chuck Shummer have suggested? I doubt it....sackless.
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Keep guessing....you are clueless. If democrats protest....the midterms will complete their total ass whooping. I here there is going to be a protest in Fairhaven on president's day. Can we count on a few of you dimwits to show up?
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Knowingly debating with TDS idiots is not productive. Nudging you clowns to expose youre hypocrisy is.
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You have no points....and this is too freaking easy.
Pace yourselves...its going to be a long time before you feel well again. Im heading off for work....dont want you fools to think im hiding. Ill be back to see who #^&#^&#^&#^& themselves later.
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Cry some more....then respond again and again. Precious
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Nice part of getting older....not giving a rats sperm what others think. Don't need anyone's approval and say what I want ..when I want to.
You going to the massive protest in Fairhaven on president's day? It's going to be epic.
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Maybe use your own thoughts and words........even if it's hard
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Sackless hypocrites says it all and cannot be repeated enough. 
We may have to rename TDS....as it doesnt cover the complete emotional and mental breakdown of grown men.
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This what they are reduced to.......sniveling crybabies...making hitler comparisons means they are idiots. They have tried everything else to stop him and nothing has worked. Its all they have left and makes them look stupider everytime.
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Towards Hitler? Are you really this stupid? Ill wait....nah ...nevermind.
Hitler is all you got left in your toolbag. 
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Reading comprehension problem.......you are regressing fast
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Your question suggest you have no clue what hitler did......I dont answer stupid questions.
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By the way..... You know that you are an embarrassment to the fine patriot in your avatar....dont you? Ill wait 
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Yes....I think we could at least be friends...without benefits
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Heres GS trying to get his nose between my butcheeks again....didnt want to disapoint you 
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Tattoos are nonexistent in my family....a big family. But keep ass huming like the other fools
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Looking for an original thought.
Are these the sum total of your beliefs?
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02-18-2025, 07:52 AM
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Ah, Musk . . . if only you were perfect . . . sort of like Biden, or Harris, or Schumer . . . et al.
Last time I checked they were elected
Trump and Musk having a joint circle jerk on Hannity. I’m starting to question which one was elected.. either way Hannity is gonna give both of them a hand job… they’re not gonna get any hard questions no, they’re gonna answer any are both gonna monologue and they found all this stuff without providing any information
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02-18-2025, 09:14 AM
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No i got tons more for you to stew about... i wrote it and stand by everything ...its not cut and paste like your original stuff.
I am your new obsession?
You guys hang on my every word...don't ya. Thanks for your thorough research...you sure you didn't miss one?
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02-18-2025, 10:15 AM
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In the Dark Ages if bad things happened and you had no wealth or land you had two choices, become a slave to a member of the ruling class or an outlaw.
Everything since then has been Progressive.
Musk and his fellow oligarchs would gladly reinstitute feudalism and be the ruling class, see Curtis Yarvin.
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02-18-2025, 11:33 AM
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The mandate??
Gallup data from late January showed that Trump has historically high disapproval numbers for so early in the term (48 percent this year, and 45 percent disapproval in 2017).
No other president is close. (Biden was at 37 percent in 2021)
And if you add in his co-president it’s worse
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02-18-2025, 12:18 PM
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The mandate??
Gallup data from late January showed that Trump has historically high disapproval numbers for so early in the term (48 percent this year, and 45 percent disapproval in 2017).
No other president is close. (Biden was at 37 percent in 2021)
And if you add in his co-president it’s worse
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The mandate?? The house Republicans has a smallest margin in their history..
Republicans know their base anre idiots. all they have to do is be lied to then they believe every word that’s spoken . Even after they have been shown it’s a lie
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02-18-2025, 12:13 PM
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Kentucky’s underwater 12 people dead
Where are all the Republicans yelling where is FEMA or where is The President . Why is he ignoring Republicans.. hypocrisy at it’s finest..
This is why I called Republicans cowards and hypocrites they are unable to hold anybody to the same standard. They tend to hold other presidents of United States. Who aren’t republicans
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