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txs. slip ,,I just got home fa lunch, freggin cold working outside...org. thickness is a must in this case...an the fact that there's only one size an shape for this plug.....who's making lip's for the org. pike's....cap'n bill's..atom's an others ..no one....every thing is an off shoot.....this maybe well for other's , but when your trying to make an org. anything to specks ...odd lips just don't cut it no matter who makes them............I for one don't give a hoot as to where anyone live's it has nothing to do with getting the right parts for what your doing.
tinman ...no one I know of encluding myself is trying to oust you out or give you a bad rep.....I did pm you after I got out of bed from being sick for weeks at x-mass time....again txs for the pkg. you sent me.
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