I helped a guy once that told me he never caught a keeper ,.Then he brings his knucklehead friend to the spot and he's there all season ,,he sets up a fence of rods ,,so many he can't watch any of them and he's giving me the look when I go down there like its his spot.. I know who he is, he doesn't know me .. needless to say I bashed his head in with a rock one night and cut him up into little pieces with a cordless sawzall..I haven't had a problem with him since .... ssshhhhhhh.....