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Boat Fishing & Boating A new forum at Striped-Bass.com for those fishing from boats and for boating in general |
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07-15-2004, 04:05 PM
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Hernia Pikie Maker
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: e. prov r.i.
Posts: 1,176
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leadcore, tube&worm. best outfit?
I'm going to get a outfit for trolling a tube and worm. what do you guys use, shimino, penn, what should I be looking for? what pound test do you use. what's the best rood and reel steup? thanks ed. 
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its no ones fault
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07-15-2004, 07:08 PM
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zoom
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
Posts: 4,145
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You will get many replies to this,
so for me i use a PENN 330 gti level wind, a 7' med ugly stick, and 36 lb lead core.
Good Luck
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07-15-2004, 08:50 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: between wh & bi
Posts: 95
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i have a custom rod from ron at charlestown B&T, but you don't have to do that....I highly recommend the Penn 113hsp if you're trolling wire line. The reel has a chrome plated brass spool which holds up to the pressure of the wire and also prevents "crushing", which you can find in other reels. Ron has plenty of offerings...but I would personally stay with the 113hsp...the rod is up to you...be sure to get the carbon guides......wire will cut through a "benny"s rod like a hot knife through butter. The ugly sticks or penn rods will work, but I'm not sure if they will last through some hard fishing I use 50 yards of poly backing and 10 feet of 60# mono leader...that's followed by 100 yards of inconel wire, marked at 100 feet.. Knots are VERY important. Haven't lost one yet.......just my opinion.....good luck! If you haven't noticed....I love wire lining. By the way...I only troll tube and worm on wire line. remember.....only my opinion
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07-15-2004, 10:36 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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penn 320 or 330 gti levelwinds.
cheap, short, glass boat rod.
4 colors out, ball bearing swivel, big a$$ tube with a big a$$ seaworm on the hook.
troll in 4-15 feet.
rod in hand, held low.
the bass cometh!
mike
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07-16-2004, 07:52 AM
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DDG-51
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,550
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swivels swivels swivels did I mention swivels. This is a lure that spins line. As slow as you can troll and like freak said a big @ss worm on the end.
The latest craze with the T&W seems to be the 4 - 5" of small diameter fluorescent orange by the hook, has anyone had success with this? Is this a substitute for the worm? I've never got a fish on these without the worm.
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07-16-2004, 08:58 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: weymouth
Posts: 1,360
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levelwind
You guys use levelwind's for leadcore? I was told that was a no no. 
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thats why they call it fishing not catching
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07-16-2004, 09:03 AM
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zoom
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
Posts: 4,145
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Re: levelwind
Quote:
Originally posted by quick decision
You guys use levelwind's for leadcore? I was told that was a no no.
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Absolutely, avoids problems with people who don't know to feed the line on the reel. With lead core no need for special eyes or line guides.
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Things done at the last possible minute are done with the greatest possible information. Procrastination is, therefore, the most efficient means of doing things.
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07-16-2004, 09:34 AM
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Finally
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: FL
Posts: 7,181
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I use Penn Jigmasters for leadcore,no levelwind. Find them on ebay cheap.
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07-16-2004, 05:54 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Penn Jigmasters for leadcore are perfect. 113's are too heavy. They are simple and can handle any striper. Buy them on e-bay. Get the ones with the chrome spools if you can, they are the older ones. P.M.
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07-16-2004, 07:59 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: 88 miles from the ramp
Posts: 18
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lead line for tube & worm trolling
I use 45# lead line,penn 113 reels, and penn 7' powersticks. This was the heaviest lead line available at the time, next time I will try 60#. I have found that the life of this line is fairly short, I cut off two colors after one season and replace the line after two. The type and length of leader you use at the end of your lead line is much more important than the lead line.
good luck
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07-19-2004, 02:16 AM
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Hernia Pikie Maker
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: e. prov r.i.
Posts: 1,176
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thanks everyone, I 'm watching e-bay.ed 
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its no ones fault
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07-19-2004, 09:08 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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Just walk into your local shop that deals with some charter capt's...ask the same question and say give me what the charter guys use.
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07-20-2004, 12:50 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 1,195
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I'm probably gonna give it a try next season, maybe get the outfit for christmas or b-day...
What's a typical leader setup for leadcore. I've heard 10'-40+'... what's the consensus?
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07-23-2004, 07:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 7
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Hey,
I'm pretty much going along with what everyone else is saying; a 320 GTI or Jigmaster with dacron backing and 4 or 5 colors of 45lb or 60lb leadcore matched with a medium action boat rod with heavy duty guides (Silicon Carbide are best) to withstand the abuse of the leadcore is best. AS for leaders, 6-8 feet of 50lb or 60lb fluorocarbon is best; if you use too long of a leader, the general rule of 1 color for every 5 feet of water depth with be useless, since mono floats and will make the tube rise in the water column.
Regarding tubes, the best tubes are without a doubt the Santini Tubes, made by pete santini over at Fishing FINatics in everett. These tubes simply outfish any other tube I have ever fished, even the heat of summer. I have caught many fish over 40 inches on these, and got my biggest ever, a 44 inch, 34lb specimen, on a purple one two days ago. A huge seaworm will definitely outfish a smaller one. Peter is the absolute authority on tube-and-worming; stop by his shop, and he'll hook you up.
Hope this helps.
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07-23-2004, 08:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 21,463
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I'm no expert but I've always fished with Penn Senator reels and lead/dacron line, non-levelwind for sure...
-spence
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07-24-2004, 06:28 AM
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Wishin' for fishin'
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Brockton
Posts: 1,651
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On my brothers boat, he uses a Penn Senator 3/0 with 45 pound test leadcore line, works super.
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07-26-2004, 07:33 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Outer Banks NC, Charlestown RI
Posts: 1,053
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Penn 320 o 330 GTI are great reels for leadcore. I spooled up a 320 GTI which I use for depths up to 18-20' after that I switch to wire.
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07-28-2004, 09:01 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: West Wareham
Posts: 1,189
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I find that the wire is a pain with tube and worm, the tube is not heavy and offers little resistance in the water just seems to be a pain trying to let it out. I have been fishing Cape Cod Bay last 2 trip out and have been dropping 5-7 colors in 80' of water and the other day I caught a dog so I know I was down near or on the bottom. I have also been using 2 5 gallon buckets to get a really sloooooow troooollll 
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07-30-2004, 02:55 AM
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Hernia Pikie Maker
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: e. prov r.i.
Posts: 1,176
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rod and reel
I got a rebuilt penn 330 gti, comming in the mail 65.00 plus 8.50 shipping and ins. from alaska off e-bay. and I'm getting a custom rod build. thanks everyone for the help. ed 
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its no ones fault
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