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03-14-2005, 04:02 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Originally Posted by lurch
Why is it that everyone thinks that the quality goes down when the product is made overseas, isnt Toyota and Honda made in Asia (as well as in USA)?
I surprised to see that low level jobs are still here. If the American worker demands higher saleries the jobs will be shipped over seas. Lets face it everyone a person slapping a reel together should not be making a high salary. It is unfortunate that everyone needs a good salary to survive but workers have to realize that their job is a low paying job and should not expect a high salary. The united states leads the world in innovation but we cannot compete with the labor force in asia or india for low level jobs
I feel for the folks who have been with the company for a long time and losing their job....its has got to suck!
I was joking to some folks at work about this subject and said I can see a college / high school or even middle school classroom with a video feed from India teaching a classroom in the heartland of USA with a low paying security guard watching the kids making sure the students are not messing around.
It will save millions on a school budget as the person in India with a PHD in math will be teaching students for 50-75% less than a teacher makes here plus the school system will not have to pay benefits which include a retirement. The only cost will be the fee for the teacher in India, the cost of the security guard, the related building costs and the cost of the video feed (video over IP). The feed will be free as most schools have free internet access mandated by the FCC.
Looks like a new bidness to get into  |
Interesting concept but it would not work. Not to say that are schools do not need fixing - they certainly do - but the number one problem facing schools and students these days is the lack of support from the parents of many of these kids. Really sad. |
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03-14-2005, 04:46 PM
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You rang?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Lowell
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I agree!
However, the savings are still there. The parents are not going to get involved if the best or worst instructor is there so why not save the money...
Sorry for the hijack
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03-14-2005, 05:07 PM
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Reminds me of a US based outboard mfg. complaining about dumping by the Japanese... Never a mention of how Japanese products are priced higher than US but still seem to thrive. My Toyota 4 Runner is signficantly more expensive than many US competitors but it still sells pretty well.
Lurch is right on about the labor market. Its a global market and if the additional cost of distribution from Asia can be overcome by labor savings while at the same time maintaining or improving quality, its a pretty simple equation. When composition of a product is largely lower skilled workers, bye-bye...
Interesting idea about education. I think it works in theory, but in practice it is a stretch... the teachers union is just too powerful!!!
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03-14-2005, 05:35 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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I am pretty sure that Penn is looking to North Korea for the manufacturing end. At least that is what my buddy tells me. P.M.
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03-14-2005, 08:51 PM
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my .02
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03-14-2005, 08:54 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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my thought
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03-14-2005, 09:02 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
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If this move is going to save Penn lots of dough, do you think that Penn will pass those savings on to you the consumer? That savings is going into the owners pocket.
As far a you teaching concept, I guess you have never spent an hour talking to a tech support person for Hp that was in India. There is a large communication gap there...
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03-14-2005, 09:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Fairhaven, MA
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Penn reels have been my preference for 40 years. They have, however been declining in quality. I have two Penn Squidders that are 30 years old. Two years ago, I tried to buy a new one. Every one in the store had the same defect. The spool adjustment would not work. Across the board, thier models do not compare with those of the competition. This is sad, a piece of Americana is passing before our eyes. This must be a conspericy by the tree huggers and animal(fish) rights groups.
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03-14-2005, 10:23 PM
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Captain Pete
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CT
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Gotta agree with specialist. The savings will not be past on to the customer on the series of reels on the market today. Just improving the margin.
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03-14-2005, 10:33 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Fifth Ward
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[FONT=Arial] Its scary to see long time, US-based, companies ship over seas (Penn being the most recent), but what incentive does a manufacturing company have for staying in the US?
High cost in salaries, due to the high cost of living, prevents most products from being competitively priced in the market.
There's still jobs and money in the US (and more importantly NE), but most seem to be in the service or sales industry.
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