Gas Prices Reaching All-Time High - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Mr. Sandman · 03-16-2005, 03:24 PM

Yep it is gonna suck. 135 gal in the boat gets me about 2-3 weeks of fishing if I don't go crazy. But to me it is worth it.

Gas on MV now is 2.63/gal for reg. I just put $65 in my Yukon XL. Some are thinking...THAT'S INSANE but considering there is no place to go and I really don't drive that far and the last time I bought gas on island was October 04. (I went off in Dec and Jan to go skiiing and tanked up prior to my return) This tank full will last me 6-8 weeks easy. During high fishing season I will tank up every two weeks and every week during the derby and I feel some pain, but again it is worth it.

For the boat my fuel is cheaper at the dock then at the street pump. I get a sizeable discount because I hold a comm fishing lic....but I haven't sold a fish since 1982. Thats right....the reason I buy the stupid comm fishing lic to get my fuel cheaper

. In one fill up I more then pay for my lic.

IMO We need to drill off Alaska and just the threat of us doing that will collapse the price. We don't have to pump much but just enough to control the Arabs.
BTW we have reserves in Alaska to completely sustain our own needs for over 200 years at over 100% ov todays capacity (and that is just what we know about). Imagine what would happen to the Arab price of oil if we said, ...."I don't think we will need any this year, maybe next year....thanks". IMO we could hold the price at $1.00/gal for then next 500 years if we wanted to. Its time to play hardball with these guys.

fishweewee · 03-16-2005, 03:31 PM

Screw the Middle East. Let it all fall apart for all I care, let the region drown in its oil.

If you do a search on alternative energy and cars (or LPG or CNG or Ethanol conversions) ... you'll pick up some interesting stuff.

The U.S. auto manufacturers have been slow to pick up on more fuel-efficient technologies - while there are a few electric vehicles out there they are only being sold in certain states like California. The Japs are further ahead. No surprises there.

We won't be seeing mass-produced hybrid cars until 2007.

Which is a damn shame, given GM's bad news this morning.

-WW

BigFish · 03-16-2005, 03:32 PM

Yeah, high gas prices suck, but I am still going to be driving to the Cape 1 or 2 times a week....it will not ruin my fishing that is for damn sure!

S-Journey · 03-16-2005, 04:15 PM

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...n_oil_drilling

BigBo · 03-16-2005, 04:28 PM

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IMO We need to drill off Alaska and just the threat of us doing that will collapse the price. We don't have to pump much but just enough to control the Arabs.

Abso-F'ing-lutly.

I know Spence is gonna disagree, but this is what needs to be done. We need to be self sufficient and stop depending on people we can't trust to begin with.

S-Journey · 03-16-2005, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBo

Abso-F'ing-lutly.

I know Spence is gonna disagree, but this is what needs to be done. We need to be self sufficient and stop depending on people we can't trust to begin with.

They approved drilling the wildlife refuge, check the link....

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/w...an_oil_drilling

S-Journey · 03-16-2005, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by S-Journey

They approved drilling the wildlife refuge, check the link....

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/w...an_oil_drilling

That link no longer works, try this one

http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html

BigBo · 03-16-2005, 06:21 PM

Saw that news.

Many towns have been charging waterway usage fee's for a while now.

Diggin Jiggin · 03-16-2005, 06:30 PM

I am ok with them drilling in alaska if they do it responsibly. But I bet we will not see this have any impact upon the price of gasoline.

The problem is not just the price of crude, it lies as much with our own energy infrastructure, the capacity to store heating oil and gasoline, our oil refinery capacity and our energy policy. It really seems like the refiners are basically holding all the cards. I just went to ask.com and did a search on US refinery capacity, as I knew I'd heard some funny stories about this... I'll throw in a link to it...

Here's the bottom line. Since 1981 the US oil refiners have closed 50% of the US refineries. So even if we had more crude, they could not refine more of it. They could build new facilities and refine more, but they have no incentive too. Until the govt steps in nothing will change, and with our energy friendly president don't hold your breath. Basically the refiners, like any good business, try to produce just enough to meet our needs. They want to operate to the minimum capacity needed, and they want HIGH prices for the gas that they produce.

Hey, if you can make 50 cents on a gallon of gas, or produce 2 gallons and make 25 cents per gallon, which would you rather do.... They make the same money either way, so why do more work?

I know this is a really complex issue and I am just looking at one little piece of it, but I really think that the only thing that will change when we get oil from alaska, is that the company that gets the oil rights to drill the oil will make a ton of cash, the refineries will get the crude cheaper so the oild companies will make a ton of cash, but there is very little incentive for them to pass along the savings to us. Did anyone notice when we had the gas price spikes last year that the oild companies recorded 'record profits'.

Its not like we are going to stop driving our cars. They will not produce More gas, so there will never be a glut of gas, which is what you would need to really see prices come down...

http://www.rgj.com/news/stories/html...sp7=local_news

Squid Hound Bob · 03-16-2005, 05:08 PM

Wait till you guy's get aload of the new fees the towns are going to impose this year.One of them is called a water way usage fee.That is for all boats trailered or not.Then the boat ramp fees are being increased too.

Got Stripers · 03-16-2005, 08:17 PM

Not this year sadly, boat is on the market in RI as soon as the windshields come in. I'll be boatless soon hopefully and then I've got some other baggage I have to shed

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seabuggy · 03-16-2005, 09:02 PM

Bob, quit complaining about the boat fees. You live in Fairhaven, all you pay is $1/ft. The out of towners will pay $3/ft. Me too, more money for crabs. With new federal regulations, I wonder what pogies will cost. There must be three feet of snow around my boat. Snow has been sliding down the canvas cover and piling up around the boat.

Goose · 03-16-2005, 09:23 PM

heavy drinker/ heavy smoker or whatever,, I'm gonna get my fix no matter how high it goes.

TheSpecialist · 03-17-2005, 12:52 AM

My buddy owns a gas station. He had to order gas today, if the truck was there before midninght he got todays price, if it was'nt it was going to be .04/gal more. He told them if the truck does'nt get here by midnight, he was dumping them as a supplier.. The truck showed at 745pm.

fishweewee · 03-17-2005, 01:15 PM

I've got a bad feeling about gas prices for this upcoming season.

I think it will make more of an impact than most people realize.

Save up those gas pennies...

Raven · 03-18-2005, 05:10 AM

water usage fees?? wave delivery fees.....clam opening fees, seagull flying by fees.... foot prints in the sand fines... ....it's getting nutty.

but hey! i want one of those MuskOxen coats....man, that would be awesome next winter,,,, i'd love to wear it to a peta meeting.

BobT · 03-18-2005, 07:46 PM

Hell.....you only live once. We all know ways to solve the problem but we forget who we're dealing with......THE GOVERNMENT !!! They play their games and we pay the price. I don't have many years left so I'll enjoy it.