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Old 04-07-2005, 02:46 PM   #1
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Ironic how the legacy of this president, rightfully or wrong, will be associated with the end of low fuel prices.

The talking heads on CNN and Fox are talking about $100 or more per barrel in a couple years.

Energy policy?

FWW is right on, this is bad, and it needs more attention than it is getting from the gov't.
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Old 04-07-2005, 02:56 PM   #2
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Ironic how the legacy of this president, rightfully or wrong, will be associated with the end of low fuel prices.

The talking heads on CNN and Fox are talking about $100 or more per barrel in a couple years.

Energy policy?

FWW is right on, this is bad, and it needs more attention than it is getting from the gov't.

Its funny, Americans are champions of Capitalism until,....it does not work in their favor. This is supply and demand, nothing more. WHat can the government do? SUV sales are still through the roof, looks like people are okay with paying big $ on gas. My house value has gone up, sucks for new home buyers , great for me. Should the government step in and lower the value of my house? Pete G, plug prices are out of control....will you lower them? Should the Govt. tell you to? Should they make Habs sell his needles for $8, Of course not. Its a free market system. Hopefully the entrepreneurial side of America will rear its head and we'll come up with a low-cost, low emission alternative to oil. If 9/11 wasn't a smack in the face, hopefully this will be. If you dont want to pay high prices for gas, dont buy it, very simple concept.
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Old 04-07-2005, 04:48 PM   #3
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My post had NOTHING to do with price setting, it IS about encouraging the import of oil. It's about a healthy energy policy.

Bottom line is a good relationship with the Middle East and other oil producing areas is important, that's where the oil is (even the most optimistic estimates re: Alaska show that it won't do much to effect supply, offshore drilling is another story). You're completely right, supply and demand is the issue and the way it should be. We (the gov't) encourage the purchase of huge vehicles thru tax breaks, while angering oil producing countries. Supply and demand.


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Its funny, Americans are champions of Capitalism until,....it does not work in their favor. This is supply and demand, nothing more. WHat can the government do? SUV sales are still through the roof, looks like people are okay with paying big $ on gas. My house value has gone up, sucks for new home buyers , great for me. Should the government step in and lower the value of my house? Pete G, plug prices are out of control....will you lower them? Should the Govt. tell you to? Should they make Habs sell his needles for $8, Of course not. Its a free market system. Hopefully the entrepreneurial side of America will rear its head and we'll come up with a low-cost, low emission alternative to oil. If 9/11 wasn't a smack in the face, hopefully this will be. If you dont want to pay high prices for gas, dont buy it, very simple concept.
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Old 04-07-2005, 04:57 PM   #4
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It's not entirely OUR fault that oil prices are going up.

China and India are starting to hog demand because their own industrialized economies are taking off.

Piss off the Chinese. Stop buying their stuff.
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Old 04-07-2005, 05:33 PM   #5
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I read that Texaco is trying to buy out Unical to the tune of 80 or so billion $$$ - give or take a few.

Hmmmm....now where could they possibly have gotten that kind of cheese for a move like that?

A few pennies a gallon starts to add up after a while, I guess -

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Old 04-07-2005, 02:57 PM   #6
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The petroleum industry's own research group released a report this week predicting $105 a barrel by the end of the year.
So, still feeling good about that Ford Executioner or Chevy Subdivision you bought????

Best one seen lately (although I happen to agree with the sentiment, just not the way it was delivered): a "Stop the Steel Forset" (anti-wind farm) sticker on the back of a shiny new .............. Range Rover!!!!!
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Old 04-07-2005, 02:59 PM   #7
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It won't effect how much I fish at all (I don't get to go often enough anyway) but in might have an impact on where I go.
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Old 04-07-2005, 03:05 PM   #8
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Anyone know who makes a rod rack that can be mounted on a vespa?

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Old 04-07-2005, 03:07 PM   #9
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My Father and Mother who live in the great white north is today paying .99 cents per liter, thats about 3 1/2 bucks per gallon! I visit there once or twice per year and I've noticed people sill love their SUV's and loooong trips. Hasn't slowed them down any and I'm not so sure it would change too many folk's driving habits around here?
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Old 04-07-2005, 04:38 PM   #10
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Supply and Demand?

It's not your standard(no pun intended Mr. Rockafeller) supply and demand system when the suppliers are all in cahoots with each other(see OPEC).
It sucks and there is nothing we can do about it, except FISH AND FORGET!!
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Old 04-07-2005, 04:45 PM   #11
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as someone who depends on about 800 gallons of propane a month to make a living, i might have to think about a carreer change, or raise my prices 30%............. i'm pissed.
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Old 04-07-2005, 05:59 PM   #12
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as someone who depends on about 800 gallons of propane a month to make a living, i might have to think about a carreer change, or raise my prices 30%............. i'm pissed.
Charter boats must be loving the price hike too...
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here's one alternative. http://www.greaseworks.org/svo
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Old 04-07-2005, 08:48 PM   #14
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here's one alternative. http://www.greaseworks.org/svo
It would be great if they advance that technology one step further and then market it better. Market it like Honda is doing with their new hybrid Accord. Most consumers don't want to compromise performance in the name of saving fuel, but if they can go faster while saving fuel they're all for it.
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