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Old 04-13-2005, 09:28 AM   #1
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Old 04-13-2005, 11:19 AM   #2
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I have an analogy for what calling Daiwa customer service is like, but this is a family site so I'll have to edit it.

Like a monkey !#&%ing a football. "What reel?" and "a spare spool?"

They're going to call me back in the next few days with a "rough estimate as to when they MIGHT arrive".
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Old 04-13-2005, 12:11 PM   #3
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Wow

Wow, I can not belive people pay $700.00 for surfcasting reels. Way too rich for my blood. I thought VS were expensive. I have never seen this $700 reel before. Any pictures? I have been telling a co-worker that we should go into buisness and hand make small amounts of high price reels. Maybe all titanium and charge $1000.00 a piece. I am sure someone would buy them. All hand made in the USA. I know Fly guys pay upwards of $700.00 for fly reels and they are even simplier to make than a spinning reel or a conventional reel, really not much to them. If I had the time I think I could make a buisness out of retro fitting upgrade parts for all the reels that are out there now, esp. with all the complaints with the 1000's of Penn products out there voiced in another post. Probably patent infringement issues involved though. Although I have seen many upgrades for the Penn jigmasters and 112H and 113H. I think Newell made a bunch of stuff and Accurite too. Frames, spools, etc. They just used the guts of the Penn reels and made everything else. Not enough hours in the day though for me at this time in my life. Paul
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Um, someone is waay ahead of you.

Charlton is already making limited edition solid Titanium 8500 fly reels.

The are selling for around ten grand or something silly like that.
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Old 04-13-2005, 04:07 PM   #5
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Um, someone is waay ahead of you.

Charlton is already making limited edition solid Titanium 8500 fly reels.

The are selling for around ten grand or something silly like that.
I paid $650 for .8 signature series about 7 or 8 years ago. The price is now $850. I should have bought few more at that time.
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I have a 1.2 with a few spare spools (in excellent condition) that I'd be willing to part with for a reasonable price.
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Old 04-13-2005, 04:48 PM   #7
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Over a year ago, I viewed and read a total breakdown of a Saltiga and VS by a mechanically inclined person(an engineer). There were step by step photos with the critique. I wont get into the details of the VS breakdown because I dont want to rekindle Van Staal Wars.

Basically the Saltiga got good grades overall, not perfect, but very good. The breakdown was technically beyond my scope of understanding so some of it made sense and some of it had no significance to me. Nevertheless, a good read!
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PM start with parts for a Nautil....

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Old 04-13-2005, 12:47 PM   #9
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...Like a monkey !#&%ing a football...
pete, i can't hear you. you say that too softly. i know a guy that puts all of his lungs behind it.
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pete, i can't hear you. you say that too softly. i know a guy that puts all of his lungs behind it.
You know a guy small in size but large on stature and beer cunsumability

Billy - the Nautil might have been OK if they didn't make it out of plastic

PM - I was thinking ceramic / carbon fiber / aluminum. Ceramics are now use in engine blocks - certainly durable, carbon fiber - might be a beyotch to work with, aluminun - that's all you... But I figure we have enough engineers and metalurgists here to hammer out a design that would have have long casting, simplicity (how simple is a VS?), and high dunkability and high survivability - whaddya say guys. Us irrelevants start up our own reel company? Call them PBR's Purpouse Built Reel Co?

"Grab a PBR and wet a line"

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Old 04-13-2005, 01:35 PM   #11
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"Grab a PBR and wet a line"
Am I the only one thinking Pabst Blue Ribbon?

i bent my wookie
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nope !!! I started on PBJ and PBR ( really Hulls beer )
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Old 04-13-2005, 01:57 PM   #13
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No.... I remember PBR well. At least I think I do :-) There's a guy up here who build custom one off fly reels out of titanium. Carbon fiber disc drags. They're like jewels. I didn't ask how much....
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I give up. I'm drawing the line at the one Van Staal reel I own. I have a humble Penn 706 as a backup.

If the VS croaks or otherwise fails me, I will blow it up at the local rifle range on the 200 yard line with a very large caliber rifle (.50 BMG might do it).
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Old 04-13-2005, 02:17 PM   #15
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Am I the only one thinking Pabst Blue Ribbon?
That's why I used that name sillyhead (got that one from my son )...

Once, years ago, when Schoolie Monster and I were going to strike it rich building fishing rods ( ) we figured we'd name it PBR rods to fit in with the Jersey to Carolina crowd....

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