More sick SOB's

[spence]

Skip, talk about incriminating yourself...

Think.

-spence

[The Dad Fisherman]

He has a constitutional right to do it, be you a far left ,tree hugging, hemp-wearing, hippy liberal democrat or a far right, Bible-thumping, fire and brimstone spewing republican we live under the same constitution. If you Don't like it, don't look at it....thats your constitutional right.

If you start screwing around with basic rights then it can be appplied to evrything that is deemed offensive to people. Hell, some people view Hooters as offensive. Can you imagine the ramafications to this board if that were ever the case.

How about PETA....they view fishing as offensive, Do you want them to be able to arrest fisherman under the same reasoning that your arresting the artist for....because it is offensive.

If you don't like the exhibit....don't go to it
If you don't like whats on TV....Change the Channel
If you don't like what Howard is saying in the morning.....find another station.


Thats it....I'm off my soapbox.......time to fish

[Navy Chief]

Okay, this is a first, I have to agree with Eben.

I think that good art is often times controversial, I mean the Vatican hated Michelangelo. Whether or not I personally believe this is artistic doesn't mean it isn't. I believe that Hustler magazine is art, so my opinion is pretty worthless and uncultured.

On the other hand, the Secret Service had to investigate this. If they did not, they would be derelict. The article did not say that they arrested him, if they did it would be bogus.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Navy Chief

I believe that Hustler magazine is art, so my opinion is pretty worthless and uncultured.

Don't sell your self short......Larry Flint was the Degas of the 1970's



....and I would be dissapointed w/ ANY navy man that didn't feel the same.

[afterhours]

freedom to speak and express ones self is what we're about. i don't like that stamp, but he's free to create it. don't think for a minute that the artist won't be investigated by a multitude of govt. agencies.

[Nebe]

Skip maybe the government could build some big detention centers for all the artists who do work that speak out agianst the president???? Or perhaps they should be forced to wear a patch on their jackets that says they are an artist who questions authority. If that artist was arrested, thats where this country is headed.

[ThrowingTimber]

Spence, Eben, you guys famaliar with Banksy's work in the uk & the us. ? That guys got some skill

[Flaptail]

Okay, get over it. It's art. It did what it was supposed to like Eben pointed out. Just as the artist had a right to say what he did in that work and you have the right to express yours in your opinion of it, it shows the beauty of the Constitution and both your rights and his to express himself are upheld for all to see. Free speech, free expression by both. What could be better than this? Once again, thank God we live in a country where you both can do this without ( we hope) retribution.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Flaptail

O Once again, thank God we live in a country where you both can do this without ( we hope) retribution.

give it time flap... like you pointed out, we are being conditioned. Skip seems to be ahead of the curve -

[Skip N]

Originally Posted by Eben

Skip maybe the government could build some big detention centers for all the artists who do work that speak out agianst the president???? Or perhaps they should be forced to wear a patch on their jackets that says they are an artist who questions authority. If that artist was arrested, thats where this country is headed.

Your missing my point. Of course people have the right to rip on the presiednt. I just thought the stamp was pretty friggen tastless and very borberline criminal. I meen it is illigel to to make a threat against the president right? You can rip on the president without putting a gun to his head and implying you want him shot right? Maybe i didnt make myself clear enough. I meen it is pretty scary seeing a gun to the presdents head is it not?? Or do you approve of this and think its tasteful? Should this artist get arrested if its ivestigated and proven he's no threat, of course not. But he should be investigated by the secret service as this is a threat against the pres. That was point. Not saying lock up people i dont agree with, thats insane. Only if it turns out to be a real threat.

[Skip N]

Man, i can't beleive i haven't dropped an F Bomb on Eben or Spence yet!

[stripersnipr]

If cutting and pasting a picture of a gun and the president is considered art by anyone.........I'm in the wrong business.

[RIJIMMY]

It would have been better if it was a sex toy and the pope was pointing it at GWB's head. Now that would have been art!

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Skip N

Your missing my point. Of course people have the right to rip on the presiednt. I just thought the stamp was pretty friggen tastless and very borberline criminal. I meen it is illigel to to make a threat against the president right? You can rip on the president without putting a gun to his head and implying you want him shot right? Maybe i didnt make myself clear enough. I meen it is pretty scary seeing a gun to the presdents head is it not?? Or do you approve of this and think its tasteful? Should this artist get arrested if its ivestigated and proven he's no threat, of course not. But he should be investigated by the secret service as this is a threat against the pres. That was point. Not saying lock up people i dont agree with, thats insane. Only if it turns out to be a real threat.

here is your first statement.

Originally Posted by Skip N

All in the name of "art". Arrest the SOB who came up with this crap

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7480455/

now your back peddling. Agian, this artist has done exactly what he wanted to do to you.

[Skip N]

Agian, this artist has done exactly what he wanted to do to you. [/QUOTE]


No artist, just a grade A ass hole who wants the president shot apperantly. Thats the way i see it. The sheeeet that passes for art is incredible. If i was a real artist (painter, sculpture etc.) i'd be pissed that this crap is getting called art. any moron can come with that stuff. No artistic talent is required to make that crap. I'm gonna go take a pic of my dog taking a %$%$%$%$ and call it art.