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Old 04-20-2005, 11:23 PM   #1
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why for running away from what he did . He should have stood there and proudly said I spit in your face Hanoi Jane . If he felt so strong about it !
"Hanoi" Jane just sounds about right. This hag just makes me sick now... This vet is da man...coming from a Vietnamese like me.


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Old 04-21-2005, 07:52 AM   #2
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I don't like her politics but she has more balls than the coward who spit on her. At least she stood up for what she beleived in and didn't pick on some elderly lady. I got no respect for thsi guy at all.

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Old 04-21-2005, 08:27 AM   #3
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According to numerous POW accounts, her visits to American POW's while in captivity resulted in the torture and deaths of U.S. servicemen.

On more than a few occasions, these AMERICAN servicemen were trying to secretly give her notes to pass on to people back home.

The bitch handed the notes over to her N. Vietnamese hosts, who then beat the prisoners silly. In some instances, airmen and soldiers died as a result of their punishments meted out by North Vietnamese captors.

It's one thing to oppose the war. It's another to PUBLICLY aid and abet the enemy in wartime. She betrayed Americans.

As far as I am concerned, I would have been happy if that Vietnam Vet who recently spit on her SHOT the $%&* for treason.

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Vietnam...what a mess. I can tell you that in the early 70's I was draft age. my friends and I all sat around listening as the draft lottery took place. each birthday getting pulled out of a barrel. No student deferments , nobody heading for canada , nobody claiming consciencious objecter but NOBODY wanting to go there. For me , I drew number 359 out of 365 , I was safe. Some of my friends drew low numbers like 18 out of 365 , they were in trouble. It was a weird time in history. It seems like the most "unforgiveable" stuff was done by the people with the strongest feelings about it. I can't condemn someone who despite some real bonehead actions , stood up for what they beleived was right at the time. She has publicly apologized for her actions but not her anti war beliefs. Having lived through the confusion of that time in history , I can forgive someone with strong convictions but poor judgement.

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She has publicly apologized for her actions but not her anti war beliefs.
She figured she'd sell more books if she apologized for her actions.

Is she genuinely apologizing (to appease a guilty conscience), or ... was this a smart marketing move on her part?

I don't disdain people who opposed the Vietnam War. I wasn't there but I can try to understand how people felt about a perceived unjust war.

Getting U.S. solidiers killed is where I draw the line between protest and treason.
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Old 04-21-2005, 10:19 AM   #6
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If she handed the notes to the Viet Congs and caused US soldiers to get torture severely and silly, the guy had the right to spit on her. This bitch will say whatever the public wants to hear, ie apology and so on. It doesn't mean anything to me. It's like Mark Wahlburg making a public apology to the city of Boston for beating up a Vietnamese guys a few years ago in his neo-nazi days before he became a movie star. It's just a publicity.

As opposition of the Vietnam War, I have lost some of family members there before my mum told me about other additional relatives from either of my dad's and her sides. It was a turmoil and hell.
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Old 04-21-2005, 01:06 PM   #7
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I wonder were all the usual suspects are on SB.com who like to defend people like her? I think even they can't justify her actions. Damn traitor that women is
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I agree that what she did was a big kick in the stomchs of the soldiers that were in vietnam . The photo of her in the antiaircraft gun and the passing of the POW's notes to the vietcong was wrong and her sympathizing with the enemy , although it could be called treason : she was not in the Military , she was not there speaking for the American people and our Government didnt send her there . She was an American citizen expressing her belief the war was wrong . As an American citizen she has every right to do so ! Whether we agree or not . I dont condone what she did . But I defend her right to to express her views as an American citizen . Isnt that what we go to war for ? Our freedom of speach and the right to express opinions . Whether others agree or not . By not allowing her to express them are we really free ? Are we more like other countries that stifle their citizens ? As distasteful her act was or might have been to some . Its the Veterans of all our wars that gave her that right . And besides who gives a rats ass about Jane and her beliefs . She has gotten more publisity from this act than her brother or father did from all their movies . She was wrong in my book by doing what she did but I have to defend her right to do so !

I was not too young to understand the war or remember the news footage , but Thankfully to young to serve . Im one of the lucky ones who did thier hitch with no war .
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